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[68.230.241.213]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id q20si354615qcx.2.2013.05.21.15.20.42 for ; Tue, 21 May 2013 15:20:42 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 68.230.241.213 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of lojbab@lojban.org) client-ip=68.230.241.213; Received: from eastrmimpo209 ([68.230.241.224]) by eastrmfepo101.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.09 201-2260-151-124-20120717) with ESMTP id <20130521222042.KTSV31063.eastrmfepo101.cox.net@eastrmimpo209> for ; Tue, 21 May 2013 18:20:42 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.100] ([72.209.255.54]) by eastrmimpo209 with cox id emLh1l00n1BBvFL01mLhsV; Tue, 21 May 2013 18:20:41 -0400 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020203.519BF33A.0005,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=O9/nSmBW c=1 sm=1 a=DJcW3uYjUF7QOSDKTYkEUA==:17 a=YsUzL_8ObRgA:10 a=QLMVfva7RPoA:10 a=xmHE3fpoGJwA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=8YJikuA2AAAA:8 a=ZVrM6DcAglEA:10 a=JwdlYaLWuGsxQCB4hZEA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=DJcW3uYjUF7QOSDKTYkEUA==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Message-ID: <519BF339.4060707@lojban.org> Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 18:20:41 -0400 From: Robert LeChevalier User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120614 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] questions about lojban References: <20130520214048.GA3114@samsa.fritz.box> <20130520221213.GB3114@samsa.fritz.box> <519B59B4.8020404@lojban.org> In-Reply-To: X-Original-Sender: lojbab@lojban.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 68.230.241.213 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of lojbab@lojban.org) smtp.mail=lojbab@lojban.org Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / selpa'i wrote: > On 21.05.2013 13:25, Robert LeChevalier wrote: >> selpa'i wrote: >>> That's exactly the part that got changed in December 2011, when the >>> sentence "When an outer quantifier is used without an inner quantifier, >>> ''lo'' can be omitted." was removed. This means that "PA broda = PA lo >>> broda" *was* part of the original BPFK-approved proposal from '04. (the >>> recent change wasn't followed by another round of voting of course) >> >> Who had the authority to make such a change? > > xorxes made that change after being asked to do so. I think PC was > complaining. > >> If it isn't voted on, the change is not official, and as you can see, >> people won't understand what you mean. That is WHY it is supposed to >> be hard to make changes, and why they are supposed to be strictly >> controlled. > > Of course, but there is no institution left to vote on such things right > now, is there? byfy still exists, but Robin as "jatna" asserted dictatorial power for the time being. Of course after so many years, the exact current membership of byfy if there was to be a vote might have to be decided, but that also would be up to Robin. lojbab -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. 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