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On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 2:32 PM, stormi <chevalieradam2@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > Talking about programming:
> > > object methods usually follow their object "object.method()". W.r.t.
> this
> > > usage lojban is quite natural. .u'i
> >
> > Lojban resembles functional programming more than object oriented
> > programming. The predicate is central, and that is a function.
>
> I disagree, it resembles objected oriented programming rather strongly.
> Namely in that the first place is almost always the "do-er."
>
> In {mi klama} *I* am the one "going" (adam.klama()). I am the one
> performing the action.
> {lo karce blabi}, the car is the thing that is white (lo_karce.blabi()
> would return true)
>

Not only is that a rather weak argument, but as the sole argument for
OOP-ness, it's completely insufficient.

brivla are not objects, they are functions. The fact that the first
argument of the function typically comes before the function call itself,
as in the case of {mi klama}, is irrelevant.

{mi klama lo zarci lo zdani lo dargu lo karce} is not "mi.klama( lo zarci ,
lo zdani , lo dargu , lo karce )", it is "klama( mi , lo zarci , lo zdani ,
lo dargu , lo karce )".

-- 
mu'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On T=
hu, May 23, 2013 at 2:32 PM, stormi <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
:chevalieradam2@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">chevalieradam2@gmail.com</a>&g=
t;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-=
left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D"im"><span s=
tyle=3D"color:rgb(80,0,80)">&gt; &gt; Talking about programming:=A0</span><=
br style=3D"color:rgb(80,0,80)">
<span style=3D"color:rgb(80,0,80)">&gt; &gt; object methods usually follow =
their object &quot;object.method()&quot;. W.r.t. this=A0</span><br style=3D=
"color:rgb(80,0,80)"><span style=3D"color:rgb(80,0,80)">&gt; &gt; usage loj=
ban is quite natural. .u&#39;i=A0</span><br style=3D"color:rgb(80,0,80)">
<span style=3D"color:rgb(80,0,80)">&gt;=A0</span><br style=3D"color:rgb(80,=
0,80)"><span style=3D"color:rgb(80,0,80)">&gt; Lojban resembles functional =
programming more than object oriented=A0</span><br style=3D"color:rgb(80,0,=
80)"><span style=3D"color:rgb(80,0,80)">&gt; programming. The predicate is =
central, and that is a function.=A0<br>
</span><br></div>I disagree, it resembles objected oriented programming rat=
her strongly.<div>Namely in that the first place is almost always the &quot=
;do-er.&quot;<br><br>In {mi klama} <b>I</b>=A0am the one &quot;going&quot; =
(adam.klama()). I am the one performing the action.<br>
{lo karce blabi}, the car is the thing that is white (lo_karce.blabi() woul=
d return true)</div></blockquote><div><br></div></div>Not only is that a ra=
ther weak argument, but as the sole argument for OOP-ness, it&#39;s complet=
ely insufficient.<br>
<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">brivla are not objects, they are funct=
ions. The fact that the first argument of the function typically comes befo=
re the function call itself, as in the case of {mi klama}, is irrelevant.<b=
r>
<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">{mi klama lo zarci lo zdani lo dargu l=
o karce} is not &quot;mi.klama( lo zarci , lo zdani , lo dargu , lo karce )=
&quot;, it is &quot;klama( mi ,  lo zarci , lo zdani , lo dargu , lo karce =
)&quot;.</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br>-- <br>mu&#39;o mi&#39;e .aionys.<br><br>.i.=
e&#39;ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo&#39;o<b=
r>(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )<br>
</div></div>

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