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On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 9:05 PM, .iuROK. <yurock.tengo@gmail.com> wrote:

> It does not matter how we refer, only what we refer to
>
>
> .u'i
> I just realized how funny the word {binxo} appears in the light of my
> explanation. Consider the example:
> lo verba ku binxo lo makcu ku
> Here I'm again talking about myself, so, to give the listener a better
> idea of which child and which adult I am talking about, I'll just replace
> both sumti with {mi} which has exactly the same referent.
> mi binxo mi
> ki'ai .uut.
>
This is why I consider binxo2 to always be a ka.

mi'e la latro'a mu'o

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<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 9:05 PM, .iuROK. <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:yurock.tengo@gmail.com" target="_blank">yurock.tengo@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="im"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
It does not matter how we refer, only what we refer to</blockquote></div><div><br> .u&#39;i<br>I just realized how funny the word {binxo} appears in the light of my explanation. Consider the example:<br>lo verba ku binxo lo makcu ku<br>
Here I&#39;m again talking about myself, so, to give the listener a better idea of which child and which adult I am talking about, I&#39;ll just replace both sumti with {mi} which has exactly the same referent.<br>mi binxo mi<br>
ki&#39;ai .uut.</div></blockquote><div>This is why I consider binxo2 to always be a ka.<br></div><div><br></div><div>mi&#39;e la latro&#39;a mu&#39;o <br></div></div><br></div></div>

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