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On Friday, May 31, 2013 22:11:33 Daeldir wrote:
> Also, about the =93r=94 (I have a long story with the =93r=94 ;-)), it po=
ints to an
> alveolar tap. I thought it was an alveolar trill! My mistake (if it is on=
e)
> comes from [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lojban#Phonology_and_orthography=
],
> I guess, where an alveolar trill is given for the =93r=94. And it had som=
ething
> to do with the spanish =93r=94, too, but I don't remember where I did rea=
d
> that, and anyway, on [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R], we can see that bo=
th
> sound are used in spanish (so, it was not precise, but not false to do th=
at
> kind of comparison). Well, I would like to know what is the =93best=94 so=
und
> (as the two are correct, thank to lojban laxism about sounds
> differentiation). First, to point it as an example, second, to correct an=
y
> =93prefered way=94 that I could have put in the french translation (as th=
e
> french =93r=94 is really different from both sounds, I spent some time on=
 it).

Both the tap and the trill are valid "r" sounds, and are allophones in Lojb=
an=20
(unlike Spanish, where they are two different phonemes between vowels). My=
=20
pronunciation rule is something like this: a trill at the beginning or end =
of=20
a word, a tap between vowels, a trill before a consonant, a tap after a=20
consonant, and as in English "mercy" between two consonants.=20

Pierre
--=20
li fi'u vu'u fi'u fi'u du li pa

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