Received: from mail-vb0-f58.google.com ([209.85.212.58]:58158) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UjNG7-0007Th-Dq; Sun, 02 Jun 2013 22:24:48 -0700 Received: by mail-vb0-f58.google.com with SMTP id x13sf1250605vbb.3 for ; Sun, 02 Jun 2013 22:24:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=A83nM8z9CeN6UZ+u5e0BHe3iNt0ov5i29Jr7tkueOzg=; b=wYzNnBD+oNybp3KsoUo7rV7Akun4BR05/MxY30HhjMOXPi0cdQ5nxiSaRoYPsruuRp MrxxgKHlHddA0g2JLr9KzqB4kkjoCjv5Rc5Ge04MmjEOeALlG3r+vugrmtQyRRbbFPim y3Sgs+jcQ0awBMpeXy/rMJbRtrpG+n45Y8mTbaT0KnEyWmghkH0w4jvqIIaEhQc8QPxu UWLhRUADjbbWItBC/t8RiYoAmzMRrR++ESL1ORxzY/ytxPGYp7ldSViZFlM8Fp6FFYEq aRPzu5OUgDKOZeefGbSIqZI7VfG7foFuCuq+7526o6d6YHtgyR9gt2hIoXgDbS9iAM5v p/vg== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-beenthere:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=A83nM8z9CeN6UZ+u5e0BHe3iNt0ov5i29Jr7tkueOzg=; b=q1QoYLlKRSoaLwk9vRBqRu4RZn6vHRL9Rz1288UqCieYZi/pIOOH5yaCsYz0vQ3DS4 3k6AN5oDb/6ZlkeK3qZtEa4Iqxn9rx00ehMSYWOqroNYnxFPUyYGx+6zoxi9Xmk/CWnP 4ek0WYe4F/Uub+ajQrQS+Z4qxCqrOvl8l7N+C42IjvbpkpcWA4zhVLtO4wdZJJwcYgA/ UOKXag0mFtZC7TuCyYzi92HcRVzXmFw9ejrlc0UwM3dpbV62KxfivNNnhrOOM0XI3zGP Ck/Ngl9XCm30CfDBfStH+unN3wY1jVuD/8q/EU4V3xH1es6N+TjY71ho1fYmz+uQL3ix 5Wcw== X-Received: by 10.49.87.70 with SMTP id v6mr1462580qez.25.1370237077062; Sun, 02 Jun 2013 22:24:37 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.49.108.201 with SMTP id hm9ls1979385qeb.65.gmail; Sun, 02 Jun 2013 22:24:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.49.59.162 with SMTP id a2mr1451654qer.5.1370237075618; Sun, 02 Jun 2013 22:24:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2013 22:24:35 -0700 (PDT) From: la arxokuna To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Message-Id: <4b834214-1970-417a-97ec-10cc38dd582e@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <20130602195111.4a57e27bf4479e320c6880ff@gmail.com> References: <20130602195111.4a57e27bf4479e320c6880ff@gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: About my name MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_2180_12728187.1370237075314" X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_2180_12728187.1370237075314 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sunday, June 2, 2013 9:51:11 PM UTC+4, daeldir . wrote: > > Daeldir is not my real name (yes, you guessed right :-P). It's an alias I= =20 > created from nothing when I was young.=20 > > However, in my head, Daeldir means something. I always associated those= =20 > sounds with =E2=80=9Cwalk beneath the moon=E2=80=9D, or =E2=80=9Cwalking = in the moonlight=E2=80=9D (google=20 > translate gave me that last one ;-)).=20 > > And I like the idea of having a meaningful name in lojban, like native=20 > americans do.=20 > > So, to train myself in speaking lojban, I tried to translate that meaning= =20 > in lojban.=20 > > First, how I would explain this meaning in lojban:=20 > > {lo nu ma kau cnita lo lunra cu cadzu}=20 > =E2=86=92 =E2=80=9CThe one (I know who) that is under the moon, walk=E2= =80=9D=20 > > Using a tanru:=20 > > {lunra cnita cadzu}=20 > =E2=86=92 walk kind of (under kind of moon)=20 > =E2=86=92 Something that walk, in an =E2=80=9Cunder=E2=80=9D maneer, and= the =E2=80=9Cunder=E2=80=9D as something=20 > to do with the moon=20 > > Which would give the following lujvo:=20 > > {lurni'adzu}=20 > > Finally, while my name now has a meaning, I want it to be a name: it mean= s=20 > something, but what it means is not what I am, it's just a label. So, I= =20 > would turn it into a cmevla:=20 > > {.lurni'adzus.} or (which I prefer) {.lurni'adz.}=20 > > I didn't read the wave lessons all the way, yet. But I feel I can begin t= o=20 > express some meanings, I can =E2=80=9Cbaby talk=E2=80=9D.=20 > > The reason I post it there is that I want to =E2=80=9Cexercise=E2=80=9D m= yself. I need=20 > someone that can criticize my work. Having the lessons is not sufficient = to=20 > know if what I do, I do wrong.=20 > > The three question I'm wondering about are:=20 > > Is {lo nu ma kau cnita lo lunra cu cadzu} a good =E2=80=9Cexplanation=E2= =80=9D of the=20 > meaning of my name?=20 > > Is {lurni'adzu} a valid lujvo, and is it ok to make a lujvo not for words= ,=20 > but to create =E2=80=9Cmeaningful names=E2=80=9D?=20 > {la lurni'adzu} can be a good name. Just don't forget to put {la} in front= =20 of it. Just like my name is {la arxokuna} (Racoon), whereas {lo arxokuna} means "a= =20 racoon". =20 > > Finally, have you any suggestions for improving my sentences/words,=20 > keeping in mind I'm for now at a really low level in Lojban?=20 > > mu'o mi'e la .daeldir.=20 > > Or,=20 > > mu'o mi'e la .lurni'adz.=20 > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=3Den= . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. ------=_Part_2180_12728187.1370237075314 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Sunday, June 2, 2013 9:51:11 PM UTC+4, daeldir . wrote:Daeldir is not my real name (yes, you g= uessed right :-P). It's an alias I created from nothing when I was young.

However, in my head, Daeldir means something. I always associated those= sounds with =E2=80=9Cwalk beneath the moon=E2=80=9D, or =E2=80=9Cwalking i= n the moonlight=E2=80=9D (google translate gave me that last one ;-)).

And I like the idea of having a meaningful name in lojban, like native = americans do.=20

So, to train myself in speaking lojban, I tried to translate that meani= ng in lojban.

First, how I would explain this meaning in lojban:

{lo nu ma kau cnita lo lunra cu cadzu}
 =E2=86=92 =E2=80=9CThe one (I know who) that is under the moon, w= alk=E2=80=9D

Using a tanru:

{lunra cnita cadzu}
 =E2=86=92 walk kind of (under kind of moon)
 =E2=86=92 Something that walk, in an =E2=80=9Cunder=E2=80=9D mane= er, and the =E2=80=9Cunder=E2=80=9D as something to do with the moon

Which would give the following lujvo:

{lurni'adzu}

Finally, while my name now has a meaning, I want it to be a name: it me= ans something, but what it means is not what I am, it's just a label. So, I= would turn it into a cmevla:=20

{.lurni'adzus.} or (which I prefer) {.lurni'adz.}

I didn't read the wave lessons all the way, yet. But I feel I can begin= to express some meanings, I can =E2=80=9Cbaby talk=E2=80=9D.

The reason I post it there is that I want to =E2=80=9Cexercise=E2=80=9D= myself. I need someone that can criticize my work. Having the lessons is n= ot sufficient to know if what I do, I do wrong.

The three question I'm wondering about are:

Is {lo nu ma kau cnita lo lunra cu cadzu} a good =E2=80=9Cexplanation= =E2=80=9D of the meaning of my name?

Is {lurni'adzu} a valid lujvo, and is it ok to make a lujvo not for wor= ds, but to create =E2=80=9Cmeaningful names=E2=80=9D?

{la lurni'adzu} can be a good name. Ju= st don't forget to put {la} in front of it.

Just l= ike my name is {la arxokuna} (Racoon), whereas {lo arxokuna} means "a racoo= n".

 

Finally, have you any suggestions for improving my sentences/words, kee= ping in mind I'm for now at a really low level in Lojban?

mu'o mi'e la .daeldir.

Or,

mu'o mi'e la .lurni'adz.

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