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I think {cukla} is fine. How could {cukla} be too specific? As I understand=
 it, what characterize gismu is that they're always vague, not too specific=
. Their definitions shouldn't be interpreted too literal, but rather approx=
imately.=20
Lujvo or fu'ivla should be used for specific meanings.
"Round" is {cukla} in most senses.

Convince me if you think I'm wrong.

mu'omi'e jongausib

Skickat fr=E5n min iPhone

22 jun 2013 kl. 08:38 skrev la arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com>:

> "<round> in the first meaning" acc. to Wiktionary
> "Circular or cylindrical; having a circular cross-section in one directio=
n."
>=20
> Do we have a word for this? cukla and bolci are too specific.
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=
=3Dutf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>I think {cukla} is fine. How could=
 {cukla} be too specific? As I understand it, what characterize gismu is th=
at they're always vague, not too specific. Their definitions shouldn't be i=
nterpreted too literal, but rather approximately.&nbsp;</div><div>Lujvo or =
fu'ivla should be used for specific meanings.</div><div>"Round" is {cukla} =
in most senses.</div><div><br></div><div>Convince me if you think I'm wrong=
.</div><div><br></div><div>mu'omi'e jongausib</div><div><br>Skickat fr=E5n =
min iPhone</div><div><br>22 jun 2013 kl. 08:38 skrev la arxokuna &lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com">gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com</a>&gt;:=
<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>"&lt;round&gt; in the first me=
aning" acc. to Wiktionary<div>"Circular or cylindrical; having a circular c=
ross-section in one direction."<br></div><div><br></div><div>Do we have a w=
ord for this? cukla and bolci are too specific.</div>

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