Received: from mail-oa0-f55.google.com ([209.85.219.55]:36970) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UqM5C-0003xG-Tq; Sat, 22 Jun 2013 04:34:23 -0700 Received: by mail-oa0-f55.google.com with SMTP id k14sf325876oag.0 for ; Sat, 22 Jun 2013 04:34:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=/w87Pwg5fYsQWa1HytokVRmCSPXm9mb+udmPOqFjvgs=; b=ytyABWid6lbbPndssnXq2u28uNbeJ+ofaRm2XStJQt9VFh5kKFv4SVAlVCOordUbzy XxW7e6OfT4CLn2ucS/D1WH3WXu1MU6KURXh62y/VE7OxHVrE8KNeKrg2XOYhrZRKTd4A YVmxbTsDF7aNbkL/8U+qrh7RiGEHbqw91ij5CoLtAEdqRbNxrQF0RC9atT4P1Lm84AX2 nqOSzuDfKhuTB37kePHpUYop/i6nt1dXKlLeZSE2a8gaZc3mjaHJbovvjXo9qM0Ry2Qf BR0qviEdrYEWevx01NKKkdxUO3t2xg2K+7lYGJuTBiuvW4vxnvQ5p7D9S+bxptdY4UKB d/nw== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-beenthere:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=/w87Pwg5fYsQWa1HytokVRmCSPXm9mb+udmPOqFjvgs=; b=wATexM5IYZ+8awzdJo2Uzm3cK4udjDlaIWZX2Ue9YAFXRnf5oVR6VQOQEhSo2dE0hf PIKae2P83VLF/vHKMdLFW2U1C+F4mxMkIyuA12bGPFmozLI/l4Wjmvdl/cCM+R6Q+V0I s2pZVUZ6F9L6eH4KdETNFCiXZf2oxw8o6fFsiaQXIREoypEoOf6oiRhXIMukY+EzgyZ0 F2Mzd5T5u6tGvqw++xnNyH4b49uTlFOruDE6MDOoeMRRt3rcVcuwWqCBfYWVPWcUSyXf Ui6hCbwU1EaqzXZLYNTCK4FfTnKcOJnly7VvWLqg3Rd93D0tj0W7L0He9Mtd1/EdxXgw fTdQ== X-Received: by 10.49.71.173 with SMTP id w13mr394502qeu.21.1371900852674; Sat, 22 Jun 2013 04:34:12 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.49.95.138 with SMTP id dk10ls1478387qeb.4.gmail; Sat, 22 Jun 2013 04:34:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.49.97.34 with SMTP id dx2mr389800qeb.42.1371900850546; Sat, 22 Jun 2013 04:34:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2013 04:34:10 -0700 (PDT) From: la arxokuna To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Message-Id: <4cfd3f85-b5c0-4fc9-9b1d-6b071f3f2dca@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <6765A625-1C3A-4C62-B995-DD699318BF70@gmail.com> References: <14a8338a-63b9-4961-b1ea-2bc389657791@googlegroups.com> <6765A625-1C3A-4C62-B995-DD699318BF70@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] No word for "round/circular" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1573_32500536.1371900850306" X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_1573_32500536.1371900850306 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Saturday, June 22, 2013 3:03:17 PM UTC+4, jongausib wrote: > > I think {cukla} is fine. How could {cukla} be too specific? As I=20 > understand it, what characterize gismu is that they're always vague, not= =20 > too specific. Their definitions shouldn't be interpreted too literal, but= =20 > rather approximately.=20 > Lujvo or fu'ivla should be used for specific meanings. > "Round" is {cukla} in most senses. > > Convince me if you think I'm wrong. > cukla. x1 is round/circular [2-dimensional shape/form]; x1 is a=20 disk/circle/ring. Normally used for a filled-in circle/disk, but emphasis on roundness means= =20 that the concept may include 'ring'. See also djine, ranji, bolci, tarmi. 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On Saturday, June 22, 2013 3:03:17 PM UTC+4, jongausib wrote:
I think {cukl= a} is fine. How could {cukla} be too specific? As I understand it, what cha= racterize gismu is that they're always vague, not too specific. Their defin= itions shouldn't be interpreted too literal, but rather approximately. = ;
Lujvo or fu'ivla should be used for specific meanings.
"Round" is {cukla} in most senses.

Convince me i= f you think I'm wrong.

cukla. x= 1 is round/circular [2-dimensional shape/form]; x1 is a disk/circle/ring.
Normally used for a filled-in circle/disk, but emphasis on roundne= ss means that the concept may include 'ring'. See also djine, ranji, bolci,= tarmi.


Spheres are 3-dimensional.<= /div>
 

mu'omi'e jongausib

Skickat fr= =E5n min iPhone

22 jun 2013 kl. 08:38 skrev la arxokuna <<= a href=3D"javascript:" target=3D"_blank" gdf-obfuscated-mailto=3D"m70yuk8sR= goJ">gleki.is...@gmail.com>:

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"<round> in the first meaning" acc. to Wiktionary
"Circular = or cylindrical; having a circular cross-section in one direction."

Do we have a word for this? cukla and bolci are too sp= ecific.

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