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On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 2:08 PM, la arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com>wrote:

> is there a BAI/brivla for "to the degree of" ?
>
> 1. I'm so strong that I can lift this piano = I'm strong to the degree
> that I can lift this piano
> 2. Are you as excited as we are? = Are you excited to the same degree as
> we are excited?
> 3. How rich is Tom? = To what degree Tom is rich?
> 4. The food was so good that I ate too much. = The food was good to the
> degree that I ate too much.
>
>
I think of the that-complement of "so" as a result, rather than a degree:

I'm so strong that, as a result, I can lift this piano.
The food was so good that, as a result, I ate too much.

Especially in the last case, I have trouble seeing how eating too much
could be a degree of food being good.  I use "tai ... i ja'e bo ..." for
"so... that ...". "tai" is more general than "to such a degree/to such an
extent", but I think it covers it.


> May be it's gradu but then what to fill it's places with?
> gradu = x1 [magnitude] is a unit/degree of/on scale/reference standard x2
> (si'o) measuring property x3.
>

For me "gradu" is the otherwise missing element of this series, just
slightly oddly worded:

...
kilto: x1 is a thousand [1000; 10^3] of x2 in dimension/aspect x3
xecto: x1 is a hundred [100; 10^2] of x2 in dimension/aspect x3
dekto: x1 is ten [10; 10^1] of x2 in dimension/aspect x3
gradu: x1 is one [1; 10^0] of x2 in dimension/aspect x3
decti: x1 is a tenth [0.1; 10^-1] of x2 in dimension/aspect x3
centi: x1 is a hundredth [0.01; 10^-2] of x2 in dimension/aspect x3
milti: x1 is a thousandth [0.001; 10^-3] of x2 in dimension/aspect x3
...

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail=
_quote">On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 2:08 PM, la arxokuna <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;=
<a href=3D"mailto:gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">gleki.is.my=
.name@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-=
left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;p=
adding-left:1ex">is there a BAI/brivla for &quot;to the degree of&quot; ?<b=
r>
<div><br></div><div>1. I&#39;m so strong that I can lift this piano =3D I&#=
39;m strong to the degree that I can lift this piano<br></div><div>2.=A0Are=
 you as excited as we are? =3D Are you excited to the same degree as we are=
 excited?</div>
<div>3. How rich is Tom? =3D To what degree Tom is rich?</div><div>4.=A0The=
 food was so good that I ate too much. =3D The food was good to the degree =
that I ate too much.</div><div><br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I=
 think of the that-complement of &quot;so&quot; as a result, rather than a =
degree:</div>
<div><br></div><div>I&#39;m so strong that, as a result, I can lift this pi=
ano.</div><div>The food was so good that, as a result, I ate too much.</div=
><div><br></div><div>Especially in the last case, I have trouble seeing how=
 eating too much could be a degree of food being good. =A0I use &quot;tai .=
.. i ja&#39;e bo ...&quot; for &quot;so... that ...&quot;. &quot;tai&quot; =
is more general than &quot;to such a degree/to such an extent&quot;, but I =
think it covers it.</div>
<div>=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px=
 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left=
-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div></div><div>May be it&#39;s gradu but th=
en what to fill it&#39;s places with?</div>
<div>gradu =3D x1 [magnitude] is a unit/degree of/on scale/reference standa=
rd x2 (si&#39;o) measuring property x3.</div></blockquote><div><br></div><d=
iv>For me &quot;gradu&quot; is the otherwise missing element of this series=
, just slightly oddly worded:</div>
<div><br></div><div>...=A0</div><div>kilto:=A0<span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,=
0)">x1 is a thousand [1000; 10^3] of x2 in dimension/aspect x3</span></div>=
<div>xecto:=A0<span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0)">x1 is a hundred [100; 10^2] =
of x2 in dimension/aspect x3</span><br>
</div><div><div>dekto:=A0<span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0)">x1 is ten [10; 10=
^1] of x2 in dimension/aspect x3</span></div><div>gradu:=A0<span style=3D"c=
olor:rgb(0,0,0)">x1 is one [1; 10^0] of x2 in dimension/aspect x3</span></d=
iv></div>
<div><div>decti:=A0<span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0)">x1 is a tenth [0.1; 10^=
-1] of x2 in dimension/aspect x3</span></div><div>centi:=A0<span style=3D"c=
olor:rgb(0,0,0)">x1 is a hundredth [0.01; 10^-2] of x2 in dimension/aspect =
x3</span><br>
</div><div><div>milti:=A0<span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0)">x1 is a thousandt=
h [0.001; 10^-3] of x2 in dimension/aspect x3</span></div><div>...</div></d=
iv></div><div><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></span></div><div><font =
color=3D"#000000">mu&#39;o mi&#39;e xorxes</font></div>
<div><font color=3D"#000000"><br></font></div></div></div></div>

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