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 Content preview:  On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 6:49 AM, ianek <janek37@gmail.com>
    wrote: > > > On Thursday, July 25, 2013 8:28:13 PM UTC+2, selpa'i wrote:
   >> >> On 25.07.2013 20:02, la .temlat. wrote: >> > I know I can say things
    like {mi ponse pa lo karce} but I can't say >> > {mi ponse pa lo bunre}.
   >> >> (bruna) >> >> Indeed, owning a brother *probably* isn't what you mean.
    (but owning a >> brown object is of course possible, e.g. a teddy bear) >>
    >> > I know I could say {mi se bruna pa lo prenu (po'o)}, >> >> You'd want
    to put the {po'o} after the number: >> >> {pa po'o prenu} >> "Only 1 person."
    >> >> The {po'o} is mostly emphatic, because {pa} (as an outer quantifier)
    by >> itself already means "there exists exactly 1". >> >> If you mean "only"
    as in "I feel lack" or as in "It's a small number >> that I am unhappy about",
    you could try: {so'u pa ui nai} - "few and one >> :( " > > > Maybe offtopic,
    but I'm not sure {so'u pa} does that. I would understand > that as "few tens
    and 1", ie. 11, 21 or 31. > > mu'o mi'e ianek > [...] 
 
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On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 6:49 AM, ianek <janek37@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Thursday, July 25, 2013 8:28:13 PM UTC+2, selpa'i wrote:
>>
>> On 25.07.2013 20:02, la .temlat. wrote:
>> > I know I can say things like {mi ponse pa lo karce} but I can't say
>> > {mi ponse pa lo bunre}.
>>
>> (bruna)
>>
>> Indeed, owning a brother *probably* isn't what you mean. (but owning a
>> brown object is of course possible, e.g. a teddy bear)
>>
>> > I know I could say {mi se bruna pa lo prenu (po'o)},
>>
>> You'd want to put the {po'o} after the number:
>>
>> {pa po'o prenu}
>> "Only 1 person."
>>
>> The {po'o} is mostly emphatic, because {pa} (as an outer quantifier) by
>> itself already means "there exists exactly 1".
>>
>> If you mean "only" as in "I feel lack" or as in "It's a small number
>> that I am unhappy about", you could try: {so'u pa ui nai} - "few and one
>> :( "
>
>
> Maybe offtopic, but I'm not sure {so'u pa} does that. I would understand
> that as "few tens and 1", ie. 11, 21 or 31.
>
> mu'o mi'e ianek
>

selpa'i is correct. See CLL 18.8:
8.19)  mi speni so'ici prenu
       I am-married-to many/three persons.
       I am married to three persons (which is =93many=94 in the circumstan=
ces).

Or you may want {mo'a pa} or {pa mo'a}:

mo'a pa da bruna mi

{rau} (enough), {du'e} (too many) and {mo'a} (too few) of selma'o PA4
are subjective indefinite values, and can be combined with other PA
cmavo.

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