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On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 12:37 PM, <edlewis@me.com> wrote:

> 1. Surly barda and cmalu must always be relative to context. if you can't
> have something that is both an insect and big, then you also can't have
> something that is both an elephant and big either, because elephants are
> much smaller than planets. Inversely you couldn't have small insects
> because insects are much bigger than atoms. In fact, relative size is built
> in to both barda and cmalu in their x3, which is unspecified and therefore
> assumed to be zo'e (unimportant or obvious from context). So while barda
> may not be relative to the size of insects, it is relative to whatever
> would fill the x1, which is also an insect.
>

Well, in this case, you're both right, because it depends on the standard
for comparison. He is saying it can't be big, which is true when the
standard for comparison being used is "animals". Obviously when comparing
the size of that particular species to the median size of animals, no
insect can be big. You, on the other hand, are correct as well, because you
are using as your standard, "insects", and it is certainly large in
comparison to the median size of all insects.

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On W=
ed, Sep 4, 2013 at 12:37 PM,  <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:edlew=
is@me.com" target=3D"_blank">edlewis@me.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><block=
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div></div><div>1. Surly barda and cmalu must always be re=
lative to context. if you can&#39;t have something that is both an insect a=
nd big, then you also can&#39;t have something that is both an elephant and=
 big either, because elephants are much smaller than planets. Inversely you=
 couldn&#39;t have small insects because insects are much bigger than atoms=
. In fact, relative size is built in to both barda and cmalu in their x3, w=
hich is unspecified and therefore assumed to be zo&#39;e (unimportant or ob=
vious from context). So while barda may not be relative to the size of inse=
cts, it is relative to whatever would fill the x1, which is also an insect.=
</div>
</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Well, in this case, you&#39;re both =
right, because it depends on the standard for comparison. He is saying it c=
an&#39;t be big, which is true when the standard for comparison being used =
is &quot;animals&quot;. Obviously when comparing the size of that particula=
r species to the median size of animals, no insect can be big. You, on the =
other hand, are correct as well, because you are using as your standard, &q=
uot;insects&quot;, and it is certainly large in comparison to the median si=
ze of all insects.<br>
</div><div>=A0<br></div></div>-- <br>mu&#39;o mi&#39;e .aionys.<br><br>.i.e=
&#39;ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo&#39;o<br=
>(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )<br>
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