Received: from mail-ea0-f190.google.com ([209.85.215.190]:52864) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1VMdRz-0007Oq-DP; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 05:35:21 -0700 Received: by mail-ea0-f190.google.com with SMTP id h14sf863197eak.7 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 05:35:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=l8rjtuDt0oFOvTsqsWwmaZbDln688QN4Dc6rC09Xta8=; b=khEZpbAMC2uSoxmqX9WxlEQckVRhKiNUUaTKLeD5ES+zsQHuTYg4JibcS/fvqHPVde TGJbsYu9bqPfcm1M0SJzrmQD1MsMA5UEiiuVgmnLv7UmxtgcCuY3s7bVHECDEiqbbisp Gi1NhLSTK8z4YmW4lxmu4zusyKfkDVziu2Ad2ATf62OuRcNTDmbc1U3SM9XY034IvQ30 IeZy/NWINyzvoJHslOzbfJjCfru8xb2PpC8hnIvlknQAfFcUyPYQ6/FOseAoUa90/KX7 cdElK8nXLwKLPrL8BuRBASuj72WJz7LnC0AZeZKFdW7T0K2lrKnq4h6d+oNhbhoxB2/M uK9Q== X-Received: by 10.180.187.7 with SMTP id fo7mr414597wic.0.1379594102218; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 05:35:02 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.180.105.8 with SMTP id gi8ls151528wib.49.canary; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 05:35:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.204.238.69 with SMTP id kr5mr128866bkb.0.1379594101329; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 05:35:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-la0-x232.google.com (mail-la0-x232.google.com [2a00:1450:4010:c03::232]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t5si507964bkh.1.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 19 Sep 2013 05:35:01 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4010:c03::232 as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:4010:c03::232; Received: by mail-la0-f50.google.com with SMTP id gx14so1861805lab.23 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 05:35:01 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.167.66 with SMTP id zm2mr1074872lbb.46.1379594100975; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 05:35:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.180.36 with HTTP; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 05:35:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.180.36 with HTTP; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 05:35:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 06:35:00 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: APE: Equivalent? From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com, lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4010:c03::232 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c38ba252af8504e6bbc8e6 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --001a11c38ba252af8504e6bbc8e6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Sep 19, 2013 6:31 AM, "Jonathan Jones" wrote: > > This Audience Participation Exercise comes in three questions. I expect, encourage, and ask for CALM debate, however, as we have a no-debate/no arguing policy on the nintadni list, please restrict all debate to the main one. > > {ko'a jungau ko'e lo na'e jetnu .i ru na'e jungau ra lo jetnu .i ru bacru noda} > "He tells them something other than the truth. He does something other than tell them the truth. He says nothing." > > 1: What circumstances can be described by /only one/ of the first two bridi? (I'd like examples both ways, please.) (Also, don't try to be exhaustive. Leave some for others, please.) > 2: What circumstances can be described by /both/ of the first two bridi? (Again, not exhaustive.) > 3: I think the last bridi is an example answer for 2. Why am I right or wrong? > > Also, if you like this kind of APE, let me know, I'll think of others. I imagine this will be easier than trying to think of new ways to get you to jbociska, like the earlier set was. ;) > > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > to ti benji lo mi samterci'a be la.android. toi mu'o mi'e .aionys. to ti benji lo mi samterci'a be la.android. toi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. --001a11c38ba252af8504e6bbc8e6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1

On Sep 19, 2013 6:31 AM, "Jonathan Jones" <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> This Audience Participation Exercise comes in three questions. I expect, encourage, and ask for CALM debate, however, as we have a no-debate/no arguing policy on the nintadni list, please restrict all debate to the main one.
>
> {ko'a jungau ko'e lo na'e jetnu .i ru na'e jungau ra lo jetnu .i ru bacru noda}
> "He tells them something other than the truth. He does something other than tell them the truth. He says nothing."
>
> 1: What circumstances can be described by /only one/ of the first two bridi? (I'd like examples both ways, please.)
(Also, don't try to be exhaustive. Leave some for others, please.)
> 2: What circumstances can be described by /both/ of the first two bridi?
(Again, not exhaustive.)
> 3: I think the last bridi is an example answer for 2. Why am I right or wrong?
>
> Also, if you like this kind of APE, let me know, I'll think of others. I imagine this will be easier than trying to think of new ways to get you to jbociska, like the earlier set was. ;)
>
> mu'o mi'e .aionys.
>
> to ti benji lo mi samterci'a be la.android. toi

mu'o mi'e .aionys.

to ti benji lo mi samterci'a be la.android. toi

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