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"saske" is >> about a body of facts, not even necessarily derived from science, so what >> would the process of science be, as in, "I am learning how to do science"? >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Lojban Beginners" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> > > > > -- > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o > (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) > -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! 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Obviously, this is a rough first, I would recommend (and s= omeone else probably will) shortening it in the ways Lojban is great at.


On Fri= , Sep 20, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
Well, the Scientific M= ethod is a series of rules, so that's best translated as individual, nu= mbered bridi in Lojban, as to the name, my suggestion would be {lo se saske= be zo'e to be zoi.(The category of science, e.g "Botany"->= ;plants {lo si'o spati}")} ({lo se saske be si'o spati})


"I am learning how to do science"
{mi cilre lo= binxo loka kakne lo se saske}


On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 3= :36 PM, Murdoc <kolzene@gmail.com> wrote:
I am trying to find a trans= lation for the scientific method. "saske" is about a body of fact= s, not even necessarily derived from science, so what would the process of = science be, as in, "I am learning how to do science"?

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.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu d= o zo'o
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