On Sunday, November 3, 2013 1:14:51 AM UTC+4, pafc= ribe wrote:

Ah= hh, see I was thinking of it as more of a "regardless of whether or not hea= ven is falling". More like .u than .e. That may just be me miss= ing some nuance though.

What is the t= ag for ".u" ?

On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 5:07 PM, Jacob Erring= ton <nict...@gmail.com> wrote:
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That's correct, and it can be used like that in cases such= as {"I found the movie really good," "I did too."} -> {".i mi mutce co = se pluka tu'a lo skina" ".i mi ji'a go'i"}. It just turns out that this mea= ning carries over to the one we're looking for. We're considering the "as h= eaven falls" part of the sentence to be an addition to the original; justic= e is being done simultaneously to a *lot* of things, of which heaven fallin= g is considered a salient addition.

.i mi'e la tsani mu'o

On 2 November 2013 16:59, Luke Bergen &l= t;lukea...@gmail.com> wrote:

I think I may have been mis= -using "ji'a" for a long time now. What exactly does "ji'a" mean such= that it conveys what we're shooting for here? The gloss for it "addi= tionally" made me think it was used for things like "I think this movie is = really good. Additionally (ji'a) it looks really nice." =3D> "mi p= ensi lo du'u lo skina ku xamgu .i ji'a bo melbi"

On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 4:47 PM, Jac= ob Errington <nict...@gmail.com> w= rote:

Connectives and tags a= re fundamentally different things, which explains why when we want to use a= tag as a connective, we have to coerce it with the CONNECTIVE TAG BO formu= lation (e.g. .i TAG bo, je TAG bo, .e TAG bo, etc.). Even if we coerced {ca= } into a connective, in your example, we wouldn't be much further ahead sin= ce we can't connect connectives. (A bit too meta.) We need to find a differ= ent approach.

Let's examine the meaning of what you want to say: "even" in this= case is carrying a meaning of "one wouldn't expect the main event to occur= when the tagged event does, but it does!" so to remark on this, let's just= use {ji'a}. {.i vudypai ca lo ji'a sai nu lo tsani ca'o farlu}.

.i mi'e la tsani mu'o

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On 2 November 2013 13:50, Luke Bergen <lukea...@gmail.com> wrote:

I don= 't know if this is more suitable to the beginner list of the main list, but= since it's a question, I figure it may be useful to some new folks.

Is it possible (and if so, how) to have multiple tags/connec= tors?

Let me explain what I mean.

On= the new jboselkei (thanks for getting it back up again qx4096), I'm trying= to translate this:
"Let justice be done even as heaven falls."

And in trying to get the flavor of the "even" par= t of the phrase, I think it's a kind of mixture of "ca" and ".u". But= the form "ko'a broda ko'e ca .u ko'i" is not valid. It's possible to= mix tags like "pu ca" or "ca bai", but I guess logical connectives are dif= ferent?

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