Received: from mail-ie0-f183.google.com ([209.85.223.183]:46154) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1WL1p9-0006A7-TL for lojban-beginners-archive@lojban.org; Tue, 04 Mar 2014 18:44:54 -0800 Received: by mail-ie0-f183.google.com with SMTP id as1sf76390iec.20 for ; Tue, 04 Mar 2014 18:44:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=uk8M6X+duKa3ehK5oRHWl47UqooWkXrilal9X1eSmnc=; b=kSbqjlRZx+9XIDII3yf88c1n7nPzsNJCOao1G/MVDNIfZ+Iy8+KYECX0sl9k2zfuzl rKbPgjIehCyMg2bqxw3KgIHj3Fl+pxw1xVAfonaudgR/XXIs0sxxs3Hmv5ZfOb5oAop4 CENHJLBu+z/qhQqupJW0yunQC4+XDYSLOqHRjiYut9KH0xz3QzIeQOYwW2DjDAy0ZRmu 3zbNiORqOr8kxsYgIajUcDcKlbfE2Om1ZiSAea5M5taTcjHLCXH8Ya9k8WSfEMOx+sTg 1btZrS98qeprH4VPXWZEOWStj4dA8GqkPfm27F5Pn3oRQi1/M5kzVhdTmUGZPHgncsJo ILAw== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=uk8M6X+duKa3ehK5oRHWl47UqooWkXrilal9X1eSmnc=; b=ULTdidZuHV4vnJqU1x6HXKZMojePYkl1FyyYQjWK1zHSavr8GITdVP+iAoRZ33jC1i L+gWt0DjDL6A97Lqv8bI31JuldHaVa0ERnr7JRjMq9+mywQhu8JICfkZjb9mcGBHxQjj 2OwWFaHR9hPi0QXTb7DYBxvZtSSLA857KWfHNijgZpzoJVys+yuMp5Xhq+jAwHnHmbRr TpUZ70JC1ZWb1RiRACyDNeZJvbbWy4/x8gQ/5dJqDewQed24Fa09XPO/HyCTMOmh0xGy zjEsWmjoUuWHG2p1SWqvxKIIn4UUFkT6qfd/iWh5UAKA1VkTYfrIpLRvkpZ33hb6culW d1zw== X-Received: by 10.182.73.228 with SMTP id o4mr1976obv.34.1393987481787; Tue, 04 Mar 2014 18:44:41 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.182.216.193 with SMTP id os1ls53506obc.20.gmail; Tue, 04 Mar 2014 18:44:40 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.182.117.138 with SMTP id ke10mr172obb.42.1393987480531; Tue, 04 Mar 2014 18:44:40 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 18:44:39 -0800 (PST) From: MystyrNile a To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Message-Id: <9e3480dd-cdca-4de0-a082-5d6a28fdb069@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <20130602195111.4a57e27bf4479e320c6880ff@gmail.com> References: <20130602195111.4a57e27bf4479e320c6880ff@gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: About my name MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: mystyrnile@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_8_4622162.1393987479759" X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_8_4622162.1393987479759 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Would "le cadzu ni'a lo lunra" work? On Sunday, June 2, 2013 1:51:11 PM UTC-4, Daeldir .lurni'acadz. wrote: > > Daeldir is not my real name (yes, you guessed right :-P). It's an alias I= =20 > created from nothing when I was young.=20 > > However, in my head, Daeldir means something. I always associated those= =20 > sounds with =E2=80=9Cwalk beneath the moon=E2=80=9D, or =E2=80=9Cwalking = in the moonlight=E2=80=9D (google=20 > translate gave me that last one ;-)).=20 > > And I like the idea of having a meaningful name in lojban, like native=20 > americans do.=20 > > So, to train myself in speaking lojban, I tried to translate that meaning= =20 > in lojban.=20 > > First, how I would explain this meaning in lojban:=20 > > {lo nu ma kau cnita lo lunra cu cadzu}=20 > =E2=86=92 =E2=80=9CThe one (I know who) that is under the moon, walk=E2= =80=9D=20 > > Using a tanru:=20 > > {lunra cnita cadzu}=20 > =E2=86=92 walk kind of (under kind of moon)=20 > =E2=86=92 Something that walk, in an =E2=80=9Cunder=E2=80=9D maneer, and= the =E2=80=9Cunder=E2=80=9D as something=20 > to do with the moon=20 > > Which would give the following lujvo:=20 > > {lurni'adzu}=20 > > Finally, while my name now has a meaning, I want it to be a name: it mean= s=20 > something, but what it means is not what I am, it's just a label. So, I= =20 > would turn it into a cmevla:=20 > > {.lurni'adzus.} or (which I prefer) {.lurni'adz.}=20 > > I didn't read the wave lessons all the way, yet. But I feel I can begin t= o=20 > express some meanings, I can =E2=80=9Cbaby talk=E2=80=9D.=20 > > The reason I post it there is that I want to =E2=80=9Cexercise=E2=80=9D m= yself. I need=20 > someone that can criticize my work. Having the lessons is not sufficient = to=20 > know if what I do, I do wrong.=20 > > The three question I'm wondering about are:=20 > > Is {lo nu ma kau cnita lo lunra cu cadzu} a good =E2=80=9Cexplanation=E2= =80=9D of the=20 > meaning of my name?=20 > > Is {lurni'adzu} a valid lujvo, and is it ok to make a lujvo not for words= ,=20 > but to create =E2=80=9Cmeaningful names=E2=80=9D?=20 > > Finally, have you any suggestions for improving my sentences/words,=20 > keeping in mind I'm for now at a really low level in Lojban?=20 > > mu'o mi'e la .daeldir.=20 > > Or,=20 > > mu'o mi'e la .lurni'adz.=20 > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. 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Would "le cadzu ni'a lo lunra" work?

On Sunday, Jun= e 2, 2013 1:51:11 PM UTC-4, Daeldir .lurni'acadz. wrote:
Daeldir is not my real name (yes, you guessed r= ight :-P). It's an alias I created from nothing when I was young.

However, in my head, Daeldir means something. I always associated those= sounds with =E2=80=9Cwalk beneath the moon=E2=80=9D, or =E2=80=9Cwalking i= n the moonlight=E2=80=9D (google translate gave me that last one ;-)).

And I like the idea of having a meaningful name in lojban, like native = americans do.=20

So, to train myself in speaking lojban, I tried to translate that meani= ng in lojban.

First, how I would explain this meaning in lojban:

{lo nu ma kau cnita lo lunra cu cadzu}
 =E2=86=92 =E2=80=9CThe one (I know who) that is under the moon, w= alk=E2=80=9D

Using a tanru:

{lunra cnita cadzu}
 =E2=86=92 walk kind of (under kind of moon)
 =E2=86=92 Something that walk, in an =E2=80=9Cunder=E2=80=9D mane= er, and the =E2=80=9Cunder=E2=80=9D as something to do with the moon

Which would give the following lujvo:

{lurni'adzu}

Finally, while my name now has a meaning, I want it to be a name: it me= ans something, but what it means is not what I am, it's just a label. So, I= would turn it into a cmevla:=20

{.lurni'adzus.} or (which I prefer) {.lurni'adz.}

I didn't read the wave lessons all the way, yet. But I feel I can begin= to express some meanings, I can =E2=80=9Cbaby talk=E2=80=9D.

The reason I post it there is that I want to =E2=80=9Cexercise=E2=80=9D= myself. I need someone that can criticize my work. Having the lessons is n= ot sufficient to know if what I do, I do wrong.

The three question I'm wondering about are:

Is {lo nu ma kau cnita lo lunra cu cadzu} a good =E2=80=9Cexplanation= =E2=80=9D of the meaning of my name?

Is {lurni'adzu} a valid lujvo, and is it ok to make a lujvo not for wor= ds, but to create =E2=80=9Cmeaningful names=E2=80=9D?

Finally, have you any suggestions for improving my sentences/words, kee= ping in mind I'm for now at a really low level in Lojban?

mu'o mi'e la .daeldir.

Or,

mu'o mi'e la .lurni'adz.

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