Received: from mail-oa0-f57.google.com ([209.85.219.57]:60981) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1WL1s6-0006Bk-F8 for lojban-beginners-archive@lojban.org; Tue, 04 Mar 2014 18:48:11 -0800 Received: by mail-oa0-f57.google.com with SMTP id l6sf79942oag.22 for ; Tue, 04 Mar 2014 18:47:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=date:from:to:cc:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=kkJdnwVlzEtIZT/UfOoM5lyPnzptALHPsc7XjOwuBXo=; b=l3KjmytZprbwokGE47+fxPy87f2YrcdehcVEKDxDPsreI+4NSe1xghOA9545zAM8ge FUouMse4zNs258HQzsxyIeqh3Zm7VdSR9wEBCfcB3bxyX/ePo7mY2qtRF9tsLisnF7T0 6lpagv8SYeyiwIhA075Ssm/cZ5HYGz6sLTAnXC02CN7r091wbf3jijIyKBtWg7iOTRAE 0yfuTqt/r61h2QYLpufiyCk7NhtcjJKaKO1ToUs6cFUGH3S/BLsg7Fyp9g6UVNpBq5j9 GGByD1CQcgJ6qmMS7RZMO50wLOGkDDR/f1P5SymegYSS2WrboCgxuqgk+dkMH9S9sTM/ iOsA== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:cc:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=kkJdnwVlzEtIZT/UfOoM5lyPnzptALHPsc7XjOwuBXo=; b=B8bx7cnmkrf23yv4ZVLtPSf1c5UKg+GWtDVQL32ByWQLBcN5Kia775G0w7BvstgIMl VLZUcHxuBIKoXavtkQRUl03PruDNsIuqf5DfcysKKeWwwaSyjVEIC9lewxUetyN7egw4 jnR4R69XVkDR8zV9bcesNS0oLFv9by0c4d/KgG2KD/PkyDcje0mLOu1Ms6D767vIsF9t QThWQyzghJgSq5x1Qd7y9ExiUWKlqfb/hngP/m7efYtQDnK0ls+XwptPiTm1Ox0ghZOR ndZek3Get99xleo3/snkBQxYtUXBKI+vLBZJZYKepBoCgj+VTI7R3Olm9RsqHhDvnWcN VfhQ== X-Received: by 10.182.158.167 with SMTP id wv7mr2175obb.29.1393987664020; Tue, 04 Mar 2014 18:47:44 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.182.250.201 with SMTP id ze9ls29094obc.74.gmail; Tue, 04 Mar 2014 18:47:43 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.182.33.4 with SMTP id n4mr26464obi.9.1393987663050; Tue, 04 Mar 2014 18:47:43 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 18:47:42 -0800 (PST) From: MystyrNile a To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Cc: geoffstewart56@gmail.com Message-Id: <466a5e5a-a051-4bc1-b324-88eba86c26ee@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] la ciste lerfu be la ca. MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: mystyrnile@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_10_10058672.1393987662471" X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_10_10058672.1393987662471 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That looks interesting. On Monday, November 18, 2013 9:12:40 AM UTC-5, la gleki wrote: > > I don't know what was in mind of the author such an alphabet as Shavian. > la srilermorna looks much sexier (and also see the description of it's=20 > design ). > > > > On Monday, May 3, 2010 12:31:38 AM UTC+4, Geoffrey Stewart wrote: >> >> coi rodo >> =20 >> Recently I discovered something called the Shavian alphabet (or la ciste= =20 >> lerfu be la ca., in my quick Lojban translation). It looks like somethin= g=20 >> that could be easily adapted for Lojban use, as it has already been adap= ted=20 >> for Esperanto use. Here is the wikipedia entry on it:=20 >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shavian_alphabet >> =20 >> And here is a font (two, in fact): http://www.demeyere.com/shavian/ >> =20 >> Obviously the letters for /t=CA=83/ (c), /d=CA=92/ (J), and /=C5=8B/ (N)= would not be=20 >> used. /j/ (j) and /w/ (w) would likewise not be used, as lojban uses=20 >> vowels for that. /h/ (h) I am reluctant to use because it's so large and= =20 >> the lojbanic <'> should be less intrusive, so possibly the apostrophe co= uld=20 >> just continue to be used. As for the vowels, A can be used for , e or= =20 >> E for , I for , O for , M for , and a for .=20 >> =20 >> The main problem is that the mapping onto the keyboard doesn't seem to b= e=20 >> very intuitive for some of the symbols, and will have you reaching for t= he=20 >> shift key more often than should be necessary. Nevertheless, it works fi= ne=20 >> with writing, and is a logical alphabet to go with a logical language. T= ell=20 >> me what you think! >> =20 >> mu'o mi'e djefris. >> >> --=20 >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group= s=20 >> "Lojban Beginners" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban-b...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to=20 >> lojban-beginne...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at=20 >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=3Den. >> > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. ------=_Part_10_10058672.1393987662471 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
That looks interesting.

On Monday, November 18, 201= 3 9:12:40 AM UTC-5, la gleki wrote:
I don't know what was in mind of the author such an = alphabet as Shavian.
la srilermorna looks much sexier (and also see the= description of it's des= ign).



On Monday, May 3, 2010 12:31:38 AM UTC= +4, Geoffrey Stewart wrote:
coi= rodo
 
Recently I discovered something called the Shavian alphabet (or la cis= te lerfu be la ca., in my quick Lojban translation). It looks like somethin= g that could be easily adapted for Lojban use, as it has already been adapt= ed for Esperanto use. Here is the wikipedia entry on it: http://en.= wikipedia.org/wiki/Shavian_alphabet
 
And here is a font (two, in fact): http://www.demeyere.com/shavian/
 
Obviously the letters for
 
The main problem is that the mapping onto the keyboard doesn't seem = to be very intuitive for some of the symbols, and will have you reaching fo= r the shift key more often than should be necessary. Nevertheless, it works= fine with writing, and is a logical alphabet to go with a logical language= . Tell me what you think!
 
mu'o mi'e djefris.

--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group.
To post to this group, send email to lojban-b...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginne...@goo= glegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl= =3Den.

--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups &= quot;Lojban Beginners" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lo= jban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
------=_Part_10_10058672.1393987662471--
/t=CA=83/ (c), /d=CA=92/ (J), and /=C5=8B/ (N) would not be used. /j/ (j) and /w/ (w) would likewise not be used, as lojban uses vowels for that. /h/ (h) = ;I am reluctant to use because it's so large and the lojbanic <'> sho= uld be less intrusive, so possibly the apostrophe could just continue to be= used. As for the vowels, A can be used for <a>, e&= nbsp;or E for <e>, I<= /span> for <i>, O for <o>, M f= or <u>, and a= for <y>.