Received: from mail-ve0-f188.google.com ([209.85.128.188]:46324) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1Wcq4q-0005Ko-VD for lojban-beginners-archive@lojban.org; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 22:50:49 -0700 Received: by mail-ve0-f188.google.com with SMTP id db12sf94038veb.15 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 22:50:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=date:from:to:message-id:subject:mime-version:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=GKD5DozK2OaBqwLQVSmNCeQp8BdL2U+D+ec5p4bMRv4=; b=LBbBAwlLwYSmSVVCycI7jGEk4sIe9MxGla77IXXfSp2la7Or6EDkj26d/jqIkzF5Nv +VR10Su8G4O79G3xIReFQ+W6q7GqqH8bUBINVqG9eEO+d0WFUXt+x1d5Eevb2M6XW0hn gwnoYKwRvvxqWMF5ofoMduD9lunUweD2q+wgjxw+zPLnaa3MqFp1Wdgoe/baZbQCRksd 65UAgyJHWVazyb6c/suvDTEKHYTRi7PGfAI/eWdzzLmIDHHTmDSrIoEyzpQ9f1++7LYC lSMGHD93BWfRba9ds4oDKc5WyG+xLIISM8roqfwjUS6CDMkLJdXRKz1rVHQKLRwZVdUG p/RA== X-Received: by 10.140.93.15 with SMTP id c15mr21343qge.14.1398232230678; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 22:50:30 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.140.85.114 with SMTP id m105ls442807qgd.87.gmail; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 22:50:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.224.74.74 with SMTP id t10mr22770398qaj.5.1398232229834; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 22:50:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.253.99 with SMTP id zz3msigc; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 09:12:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.182.33.4 with SMTP id n4mr351246obi.9.1398183159046; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 09:12:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 09:12:38 -0700 (PDT) From: neit To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Message-Id: <700717d1-6c0c-4b4c-a6d2-77d5401f0db5@googlegroups.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] how do you use sumka'i to refer to an outer bridi? MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: kosmikconundrum@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_147_13442965.1398183158397" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_147_13442965.1398183158397 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 coi rodo A good example that I'm trying to wrap my brain around is the following: Suppose I want to say, "Who wants my dog?" bau la lojban - .i ma djica lo nu ____ ponse lo mi gerku I want a sumka'i in the ____ to refer to the "ma" in the main bridi. How can I do that? Can I use the reflexive sumka'i vo'a? (.i ma djica lo nu vo'a ponse lo mi gerku)? Or do those reflexive sumka'i only refer to their native bridi, or can they "reach-out" and refer to the main bridi of which they are a part? ki'e pu'o sidju mi'e neit mu'o -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. ------=_Part_147_13442965.1398183158397 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
coi rodo
 
A good example that I'm trying to wrap my brain around is the followin= g:  Suppose I want to say, "Who wants my dog?"  bau la lojban - .= i ma djica lo nu ____ ponse lo mi gerku
 
I want a sumka'i in the ____ to refer to the "ma" in the main bridi.&n= bsp; How can I do that?  Can I use the reflexive sumka'i vo'a?  (= .i ma djica lo nu vo'a ponse lo mi gerku)?  Or do those reflexive sumk= a'i only refer to their native bridi, or can they "reach-out" and refer to = the main bridi of which they are a part?
 
ki'e pu'o sidju
 
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