Date: Thu, 1 May 2014 11:50:43 -0700 (PDT)
From: ".neit." <kosmikconundrum@gmail.com>
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Subject: [lojban-beginners] {lo ka "attitudinal"}
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coi rodo
 
.uanai .e'o So if I wanted to say {mi ca tarti lo ka _attitudinal_ kei}  
Would that be gramatical?  Would the {ce'u} necessarily implied by the {ka} 
be the speaker since all attitudinals are spoken from the perspective of 
the speaker?  (excepting for {dai} of course).  Or would there be no {ce'u} 
since {ce'u} is a sumka'i and needs a sumti place to occupy (and 
attitudinals have no sumti places)?
 
I ask because with the attitudinals, their scales, modifiers, categories 
and sheer compoundability, a speaker could articulate to a higher degree, 
his/her feelings than simply using brivla.  And given that, there are times 
when you would want to express a feeling in bridi form, which brivla fail 
to adequately specify.  I'm trying to get at a way of discussing an 
attitudinal compound in a bridi.  
 
Could I assign the attitudinal compound to an assignable sumka'i using 
{goi} and discuss the attitudinal compound using that sumka'i?  
 
ki'e da do
 
mi'e .neit. mu'o

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><DIV>coi rodo</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>.uanai .e'o So if I wanted to say {mi ca tarti lo ka&nbsp;_attitudinal=
_ kei}&nbsp; Would that be gramatical?&nbsp; Would the {ce'u} necessarily i=
mplied by the {ka} be the speaker since all attitudinals are spoken from th=
e perspective of the speaker?&nbsp; (excepting for {dai} of course).&nbsp; =
Or would there be no {ce'u} since {ce'u} is a sumka'i and needs a sumti pla=
ce to occupy (and attitudinals have no sumti places)?</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I ask because with the attitudinals, their scales, modifiers, categori=
es and sheer compoundability, a speaker could articulate to a higher degree=
, his/her feelings than simply using brivla.&nbsp; And given that, there ar=
e times when you would want to express a feeling in bridi form, which brivl=
a fail to adequately specify.&nbsp; I'm trying to get at a way of discussin=
g an attitudinal compound in a bridi.&nbsp; </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Could I assign the attitudinal compound to an assignable sumka'i using=
 {goi} and discuss the attitudinal compound using that sumka'i?&nbsp; </DIV=
>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>ki'e da do</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>mi'e .neit. mu'o</DIV></div>

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