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Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: {konju} and its place structure
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There are two main definitions of "cone":
1. (geometry) A surface of revolution formed by rotating a segment of a
line around another line that intersects the first line.
2. (geometry) A solid of revolution formed by rotating a triangle around
one of its altitudes.

I think neither meaning of "cone" reflects {konju}. I think {konju}
describes a *segment* of a line (possibly infinite thus identical to a line
in such case) revolving around another linear segment thus forming a
*surface*. As for konju1 it describes an object (possibly immaterial) with
*a property* of such cone-ness.

This explains why only vertex is specified. but konju2 seems to be
superflous then since it is not always necessary.


2014-05-23 12:11 GMT+04:00 Gleki Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com>:

> The definition of {konju} is rather cryptic.
>
> x1 is a cone [shape/form] of material x2 with vertex x3. Also ellipse,
> ellipsoid (= konclupa). See also jesni, djine, sovda, kojna, jganu.
>
> "Cone" is this object: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/File:PovCone.jpg
> either only the surface of an object made after the revolution of a
> triangle. That's why konju3 seems strange. Why only vertex is defined?
>
> Definitely cone it's not an ellipse.
>
> Could you please explain this?
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>There are two main definitions of &quot;cone&quot;:</=
div><div>1. (geometry) A surface of revolution formed by rotating a segment=
 of a line around another line that intersects the first line.</div><div>2.=
 (geometry) A solid of revolution formed by rotating a triangle around one =
of its altitudes.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I think neither meaning of &quot;cone&quot; reflects {k=
onju}. I think {konju} describes a *segment* of a line (possibly infinite t=
hus identical to a line in such case) revolving around another linear segme=
nt thus forming a *surface*. As for konju1 it describes an object (possibly=
 immaterial) with *a property* of such cone-ness.</div>
<div><br></div><div>This explains why only vertex is specified.=C2=A0but ko=
nju2 seems to be superflous then since it is not always necessary.</div></d=
iv><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2014-05-23=
 12:11 GMT+04:00 Gleki Arxokuna <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gle=
ki.is.my.name@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com</a>&g=
t;</span>:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>The definition of {kon=
ju} is rather cryptic.</div><div><br></div><div>x1 is a cone [shape/form] o=
f material x2 with vertex x3. Also ellipse, ellipsoid (=3D konclupa). See a=
lso jesni, djine, sovda, kojna, jganu.</div>

<div><br></div><div>&quot;Cone&quot; is this object:=C2=A0<a href=3D"https:=
//en.wiktionary.org/wiki/File:PovCone.jpg" target=3D"_blank">https://en.wik=
tionary.org/wiki/File:PovCone.jpg</a></div><div>either only the surface of =
an object made after the revolution of a triangle. That&#39;s why konju3 se=
ems strange. Why only vertex is defined?</div>

<div><br></div><div>Definitely cone it&#39;s not an ellipse.</div><div><br>=
</div><div>Could you please explain this?</div></div>
</blockquote></div><br></div>

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