Received: from mail-lb0-f183.google.com ([209.85.217.183]:53513) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1X4AT5-0004K0-0s for lojban-beginners-archive@lojban.org; Mon, 07 Jul 2014 08:04:38 -0700 Received: by mail-lb0-f183.google.com with SMTP id l4sf534504lbv.0 for ; Mon, 07 Jul 2014 08:04:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=d/w7cfjs8/Ut6ju0wImEFVzWr/7p7Y92T9h2d0bayPA=; b=XMjI031O7LSzdFoHTlrOtPCuDAo9w8uFpOw8k/p8VcDyJbbo0dc79eD58DgfvtkGsO U+6lqb9jnlyqklFyDSkX5gGUTlAkMfjAbdY8HiTJeOSAkSRWGpicrHsbbzdKft5wccDe PDaYVrPnIJwYbF8Jf6BasjGEBUOZpsngExhHMNEdjNcxzsyauSH4ZW6vq9rAslYYwYOw S6BjzxwxPhzVG0pYho936OoxoKoijAlQVtrVUlfCNDUiM7ELIMuGkNeyvgjqvZrC6qg5 xpjcBxLnivopEEi6IxPxHiOna6nt46/P6cgb/fDOLthVtFT8YjuzC4UJLOeXR2jjpx9o Sv5Q== X-Received: by 10.152.8.199 with SMTP id t7mr19747laa.11.1404745466870; Mon, 07 Jul 2014 08:04:26 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.152.225.166 with SMTP id rl6ls141704lac.87.gmail; Mon, 07 Jul 2014 08:04:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.112.135.40 with SMTP id pp8mr119554lbb.23.1404745465952; Mon, 07 Jul 2014 08:04:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qg0-x22a.google.com (mail-qg0-x22a.google.com [2607:f8b0:400d:c04::22a]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id jx1si4023155qcb.1.2014.07.07.08.04.25 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 07 Jul 2014 08:04:25 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400d:c04::22a as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:400d:c04::22a; Received: by mail-qg0-f42.google.com with SMTP id e89so3798421qgf.15 for ; Mon, 07 Jul 2014 08:04:25 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.140.109.135 with SMTP id l7mr5017966qgf.72.1404745465769; Mon, 07 Jul 2014 08:04:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.96.81.4 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 08:04:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <330aa80a-028c-4e74-b472-2cd7b059ccd6@googlegroups.com> <6581166.P2hLEzlrrh@caracal> Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2014 11:04:25 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] .i zoi gy. gift gy. xe fanva ma la lojban (How do you say 'Gift' in lojban?) From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: mturniansky@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400d:c04::22a as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mturniansky@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113a4eb27cb3fa04fd9bcacb X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - --001a113a4eb27cb3fa04fd9bcacb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Of course, this whole discussion is somewhat mooted by the fact that Joanna does NOT mean "God's gift". Not sure what source you got that from, but take it from someone who speaks Hebrew -- it is from the Hebrew Yochana, the feminine form of Yochanan (which became Johann in German, John in English, Juan in Spanish, etc), and means "God is gracious". --Gejyspa On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 2:42 AM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 12:26 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > >> I'd say "ioxanat". If you translated every name that means "God's gift", >> then >> Dorothy, Theodore, Godiva, Jonathan, and Bogdan would all come out the >> same. >> > > Which is most of the reason I go by .aionys. :) > > -- > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o > (Come to the Dot Side! 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=C2=A0 Of course, this whole discussion is somewhat mooted= by the fact that Joanna does NOT mean "God's gift". =C2=A0No= t sure what source you got that from, but take it from someone who speaks H= ebrew -- it is from the Hebrew Yochana, the feminine form of Yochanan (whic= h became Johann in German, John in English, Juan in Spanish, etc), and mean= s "God is gracious".

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 --Gejyspa



On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 2:42 AM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail= .com> wrote:
On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 12:26 P= M, Pierre Abbat <phma@bezitopo.org> wrote:
I'd say "ioxanat". If you tran= slated every name that means "God's gift", then
Dorothy, Theodore, Godiva, Jonathan, and Bogdan would all come out the same= .

Which is most of the reason I go by .aionys. :)

--
mu'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.e'uc= ai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come = to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )

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