Received: from mail-yk0-f189.google.com ([209.85.160.189]:41263) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XMXNX-0003B5-G5 for lojban-beginners-archive@lojban.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 00:10:48 -0700 Received: by mail-yk0-f189.google.com with SMTP id q200sf3754122ykb.16 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 00:10:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=SNCUtfbU3wi+huymWSO7KRqOtdFfP2Gda1l6gWOQOh8=; b=N7gH53jnyBcHthdsi3h1xCc5pzlD8iryia0WFRU/iygc3GMYeXpgxjUekEkNBcJUWX LSqh8k53ORnobWGqXjhzt/fE+uKI+uh+rULKy7MdSr5wTPcQ9KtXEeI+S4rs4GieDCB2 DwmSUAXTB/3feARC/vz/EXQn9DWjc8pWMko9QCgN+SLAtXLqiTuPtO+ApeEIVon38g78 EVFCoKYuseLOp2bi4mctYBuf46bi2TL0PoFg9jUasFR6HF2bNvPWQF7xYnvDNY7D9T9F 6lGAciuD344xn+D+zpnGXaDlltOa8nh5VsyHjHwINCGO/3nkUGv+u/V5DE0aDKKnB4FP SLPQ== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=SNCUtfbU3wi+huymWSO7KRqOtdFfP2Gda1l6gWOQOh8=; b=vMqz97V6jaXS8shtXFzmDTGiyFolQyrTevIFbIFYhNnlJdbF9hDBgY4PfB7CW92r8v hkk/r40n0BF/EeTQ6afd4ptadbz5CxHEb8EG6DGTDQBeFBl/zx79+2mQjTrlb6JmzJto W4zuV+2btna8NTg9tSM0xhLRgMVuK9TlKQXu4GkIKDN8+70ZGAiSxgi2ZacjeejqhIyZ j2DikRLUVisfYzSE445P79sbHI3cEqTX+rAyUuqX3uh3NKP+HiAsGR+kSAYaorVQSmzT sCyKPmTEM8QO4+tXUg52tnwzGhKyEdyiW5qlHdQ4huy85+LRxl1F+iqQYGkEsNxn7//o Wx3Q== X-Received: by 10.140.105.52 with SMTP id b49mr641334qgf.3.1409123440349; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 00:10:40 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.140.37.35 with SMTP id q32ls9284qgq.50.gmail; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 00:10:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.140.27.140 with SMTP id 12mr10109qgx.19.1409123439558; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 00:10:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2014 00:10:39 -0700 (PDT) From: ianek To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Message-Id: <9ac63d8c-f4c5-46a0-a195-c861a1be451d@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: References: <90585a7c-1826-4e80-aef3-d83c83d5e8f3@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] English w and y sounds MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: janek37@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_4580_375349987.1409123439047" X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - ------=_Part_4580_375349987.1409123439047 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 What about eg. {glibau}? Isn't it much like "gleebow"? Likewise for lujvo with *ai, *ei, *oi rafsi. Eg. {vrogai} is like "vroguy" On Wednesday, August 27, 2014 1:23:46 AM UTC+2, aionys wrote: > > Oh, I misread. No to gismu, because they're all of form CVCCV or CCVCV, so > no diphthongs. Possible but unlikely for lujvo, because of how they're > made. Not exclusive to attitudinals, however, as they can be found in cmene > and fu'ivla. > > > On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 5:22 PM, Jonathan Jones > wrote: > >> .ie = "ye(s)" >> .ui = "whee!" >> >> >> On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 4:57 PM, TR NS > >> wrote: >> >>> Can a gismu or lujvo have a "y" or "w" sound in it (by this I mean the >>> English sounds)? Reading about the morphology again, it seems like this >>> can't happen. 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What about eg. {glibau}? Isn't it much like "gleebow"?
= Likewise for lujvo with *ai, *ei, *oi rafsi. Eg. {vrogai} is like "vroguy"<= br>
On Wednesday, August 27, 2014 1:23:46 AM UTC+2, aionys wrote:
Oh, I misread. No to= gismu, because they're all of form CVCCV or CCVCV, so no diphthongs. Possi= ble but unlikely for lujvo, because of how they're made. Not exclusive to a= ttitudinals, however, as they can be found in cmene and fu'ivla.


On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 5:22 = PM, Jonathan Jones <eye...@gmail.com> wrote:
.ie =3D "ye(s)"
.ui =3D "whee!"


On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 4:57 PM, TR NS <= span dir=3D"ltr"><tran...@gmail.com= > wrote:
Can a gismu or lujvo have a= "y" or "w" sound in it (by this I mean the English sounds)? Reading about = the morphology again, it seems like this can't happen. Which means they onl= y ever occur in attitudinals.

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mu'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.e'ucai ko cmi= ma lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )



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<= br>.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
= (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )

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