Received: from mail-oi0-f62.google.com ([209.85.218.62]:61466) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XMjZx-0002DW-9Q for lojban-beginners-archive@lojban.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 13:12:26 -0700 Received: by mail-oi0-f62.google.com with SMTP id x69sf138895oia.17 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 13:12:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=6zhXxVd5lsZecLenVy7X/9nEqXWdc6x13oa6sBKdbAg=; b=SFtFdhxx/zqdNI+Rf2F/IhTwifLUiHGYUv5QAajv1NkHlbnOLRdXrt5wLwYEdoF2HD xU3EZ41Qc2P5t4RhBlwIO90NCRI8m30Oh28bfO7a6hP4d8sTnIaPthH5B7Zt51FdBM2R 5Fx+dM8y/TtCO4UR1w/y+K0QbwSBy2pBTxTY4q2s02E9+evvSD5HhoHhOgDcwu+a2bS/ w1/OiREdj340xSynvm0468KU54NzaCSYq5BMRpYwrfwCzNFB5eo1jFHJS0hfDfWRF43u 4/6vZUZcjM6n3NPGgx9YfVTcwPJwO/nuCEhXtE3fl60uz8XTP/FmpNS9RoxCb5GA3oZu OO4Q== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=6zhXxVd5lsZecLenVy7X/9nEqXWdc6x13oa6sBKdbAg=; b=w2l2jfn44mi8yaswVRfsZLSn5qsiJxcYqA7bsuqDLDi1Cxyzld8F3FwIxpleYSkeeB HOiJ5QKTFuJhyPx9+tRnuGMMn5Q1oNSG/tUpswnlV8cpT+bGG7jMkMnh8/L4VWeycp07 d9kws+HsepqbOZyoTPTewxAKIi5g+veqjf5/zsP0IMNF9nbihuXV7ozubvTG+eWCyyqq I0mEFvA2c+awycVZPx20a1RxPOwiXIrdTPUw+KtfN55d9+8RizunTDAumtt2HIa6PiiH 0DZ2ZZ0vPJ66mCaFJA00KTX6+j3DuKUCfExFx607XT1RNJbIMTe8c1/gQQSEN59muEiA jlYg== X-Received: by 10.140.49.111 with SMTP id p102mr37509qga.27.1409170338818; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 13:12:18 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.140.42.133 with SMTP id c5ls312271qga.38.gmail; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 13:12:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.140.36.66 with SMTP id o60mr37899qgo.28.1409170337991; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 13:12:17 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2014 13:12:17 -0700 (PDT) From: TR NS To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Message-Id: <8455bb4b-d7f2-4725-acff-919de66f9a2f@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: References: <90585a7c-1826-4e80-aef3-d83c83d5e8f3@googlegroups.com> <9ac63d8c-f4c5-46a0-a195-c861a1be451d@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] English w and y sounds MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: transfire@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_754_2090317656.1409170337453" X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - ------=_Part_754_2090317656.1409170337453 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Wednesday, August 27, 2014 2:27:58 PM UTC-4, stevo wrote: > > There are also rafsi Cai, Cei, and Coi so the 'y' sound can occur in lujvo > with those rafsi. > > Okay. If I understand correctly, then it can happen but is rare, and will only happen in lujvo not gismu. Let me ask a follow-up question. How would something like "caio" (sha-yo) be interpreted? I assume it will be considered two cmavo, "ca" and "io". But then I (almost) never see a word like "io" used anywhere but at the beginning of a sentence and never with out a clear stop `.io`. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. ------=_Part_754_2090317656.1409170337453 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Wednesday, August 27, 2014 2:27:58 PM UTC-4, st= evo wrote:
There are also rafsi Cai, C= ei, and Coi so the 'y' sound can occur in lujvo with those rafsi. 


Okay. If I understand corr= ectly, then it can happen but is rare, and will only happen in lujvo not gi= smu.
 
Let me ask a follow-up question. How would = something like "caio" (sha-yo) be interpreted? I assume it will be consider= ed two cmavo, "ca" and "io". But then I (almost) never see a word like "io"= used anywhere but at the beginning of a sentence and never with out a clea= r stop `.io`. 

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