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From: Gleki Arxokuna To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c03::22d as permitted sender) smtp.mail=gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d04462e9eb3f7720501c76641 X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - --f46d04462e9eb3f7720501c76641 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 2014-08-29 20:38 GMT+04:00 TR NS : > > > On Friday, August 29, 2014 10:16:47 AM UTC-4, la gleki wrote: >> >> 1. http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/dict/listing.html?type=all >> 2. copy the list, paste to a notepad app with line numbers >> 3. profit >> >> However, as i said this method including all jvajvo including such silly >> ones as SE+gismu and cmavo compounds. >> >> > cultural ISO-fu'ivla is another example of what jvs consists of. >> >> > Hmm... okay so maybe I can guesstimate there are about 10,000 actual > single words (i.e. 22,260 minus all the "silly words"). > Which words do you consider silly? a fu'ivla for "Bella Coola" language can be named silly but this language was discussed by Lojbanists in past. May be you should rely on frequency wordlist? Then at which point you will stop counting words? How many words are there in English? How many of them are silly? That seem like a fair estimate? I'm just wanted to mention the approximate > number of words in an article/blog-post of mine. > > Maybe it would be better to just mention the number of gismu. Is there a > more firm number of those? > ~1400. Again some of them are used very seldom. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. 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2014-08-29 20:38 GMT+04:00 TR NS <transfire@gmail.com>:


On Friday, August= 29, 2014 10:16:47 AM UTC-4, la gleki wrote:
1. http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/dict/lis= ting.html?type=3Dall
2. copy the list, paste to a notepad app w= ith line numbers
3. profit

However, as i said this method including all jvajvo inc= luding such silly ones as SE+gismu and cmavo compounds.
=C2=A0
cultural ISO-fu'ivla is another exampl= e of what jvs consists of.


Hmm... okay so = maybe I can guesstimate there are about 10,000 actual single words (i.e. 22= ,260 minus all the "silly words").

Which words do you consider silly?
a fu'ivla f= or "Bella Coola" language can be named silly but this language wa= s discussed by Lojbanists in past.

May be you shou= ld rely on frequency wordlist? Then at which point you will stop counting w= ords?
How many words are there in English? How many of them are silly?
=

That seem like a fair estimate? I'm just wanted = to mention the approximate number of words in an article/blog-post of mine.=

Maybe it would be better to just mention the numb= er of gismu. Is there a more firm number of those?

~1400. Again some of them are used v= ery seldom.

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