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On 8/30/2014 2:04 AM, Jonathan Jones wrote:
> I very much agree that the ISO-fu'ivla are silly. In addition, I
> consider them rather useless. When the discussion that spawned their
> creation came up, I felt it a better idea to go the opposite route:
> instead of making "cultural fu'ivla" for all the existing X, a list that
> will continuously change and pretty much always result in words that can
> only be understood by people who know the ISO in the first place, make
> lujvo stripped of their specificity. All of the cultural gismu have one
> or more of six categories in their definitions, hence the creation of
> the six lujvo {tutra'a} (geography), {selgu'era'a} (nationality),
> {klura'a} (culture), {jdara'a} (religion), {cemra'a} (community), and
> {banra'a} (language).
>
> Without going into opinions as to how common talking about such is or
> will be in Lojban, it is handy to be able to talk about {lo klura'a be
> lo nunjmaji} or {lo jdara'a be la.vylkan.} without having to look at
> some arbitrarily long list.

It seems that for arbitrary "culture names" the proper solution is start 
with "Type 1" or "Type 2" fu'ivla aka quoted non-Lojban and cmene (using 
"me" if needed).  There is no need to coin a brivla unless the word is 
being used frequently over time, or if there is need to represent a full 
place structure.

lojbab

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