Received: from mail-qa0-f59.google.com ([209.85.216.59]:43990) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XOngx-0000Os-AZ for lojban-beginners-archive@lojban.org; Tue, 02 Sep 2014 06:00:12 -0700 Received: by mail-qa0-f59.google.com with SMTP id cm18sf1622768qab.4 for ; Tue, 02 Sep 2014 06:00:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=A7MQTklKj8rpRJEpGSe8ySKzb+KxSZvPBPHqFrfEF3o=; b=FWJxAIoiWTVeNCzB+I+saWEIYPplPFJQbCmdmnARvGdp3zbLM6jggps3VEU1CvS4fA eAJJXPbebTDhgcr2Jmt/44fx6XndVz1W/irWHt7CXcW1GyJinIerMIG1+K0rUROjfKrd lDuEQkOMCFByP02j98GElmF5prPHvSDLD5txdiBtVnjOrIYqIgrjSLPfyi8SHRKivgon w5xozJgfb4a9YLXRUVTitSo8h92JjsuVRqAyibzPLGNVMMcNHaM/kNBjT206NcLkGiXY SBvVg8VI3JFuRfPpoMPao2xnsRbs3ZFqXROTZH84rUQTgNnnE/silXf3nnrj6OHFS8HA yB1g== X-Received: by 10.182.45.134 with SMTP id n6mr1698obm.36.1409662804723; Tue, 02 Sep 2014 06:00:04 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.182.87.202 with SMTP id ba10ls839796obb.13.gmail; Tue, 02 Sep 2014 06:00:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.182.28.102 with SMTP id a6mr558823obh.44.1409662803003; Tue, 02 Sep 2014 06:00:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net. [212.227.15.19]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t11si487124pdl.0.2014.09.02.06.00.01 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 02 Sep 2014 06:00:01 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of seladwa@gmx.de designates 212.227.15.19 as permitted sender) client-ip=212.227.15.19; Received: from [192.168.2.118] ([93.220.124.1]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx001) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0M4GRv-1YFngK3vb1-00rra7 for ; Tue, 02 Sep 2014 15:00:00 +0200 Message-ID: <5405BF51.8070805@gmx.de> Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 15:00:01 +0200 From: selpa'i User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Beauty vs Beautiful References: <8d995726-ddad-4b45-b3db-4672bf530d47@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <8d995726-ddad-4b45-b3db-4672bf530d47@googlegroups.com> X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:kPIWx3gKF+tWfD83v+EPs7KvLj6zsGllB89VvJ1Xss/Vh3k1mez h/xmQKU6BRMG5ug+r+ezBc9fyk3PVCMoVShdvlL67UmBvegQqn3shrXmYMxcD+cqB35Ha3f 4aPy3eAa54THC/ckq1DiEvCizUC+1rjKS9WuDK78GpF67x5rJNqOP6UL4X74Q/L8FoGzs8d xvNjh+MRA5jp6d6QWxibQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; X-Original-Sender: seladwa@gmx.de X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of seladwa@gmx.de designates 212.227.15.19 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=seladwa@gmx.de Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - la .trans. cu cusku > How does one say "she is beautiful" as opposed to "she is beauty > [incarnate]"? Leave the "incarnate" out, I just put that there to > clarify my meaning. Thanks. You would use the same metaphor as in English: ri ka [ce'u] melbi "She is beauty." (the property of being beautiful) It works as a metaphor because she is so beautiful that you equate her with beauty itself. mi'e la selpa'i mu'o -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.