Received: from mail-wi0-f189.google.com ([209.85.212.189]:65348) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XUxAg-0005UU-5M for lojban-beginners-archive@lojban.org; Fri, 19 Sep 2014 05:20:19 -0700 Received: by mail-wi0-f189.google.com with SMTP id n3sf248025wiv.6 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2014 05:20:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=Tt9H9sGnxfYu3rX5ZPZzs/2AteiRahIe1jkX3JeB8ds=; b=pcPUcKSwyDr2d516fVW2+hIV23F1OHnZIfuZB1a+bCATt6KAR9x1zz7M2EWmyjGDhn /sQl3RAFnYaIiSJnxyValVNgiNoWa0L0S4nncNOhY4UxkqeiVnIm+apyFFL7VlIrqcPI mvfrat4LIAaLAeZ5xoLks7gm5oKKrahFjqB1aym22I9WIbkXTcEm/sz7GZnofqQtJX1A lukBYi9pupvpJP7/sTCNjPF9lo1EqT4gxHnaaDDmf81cfOzNy/nk/K8ZAnv145apCqUi Tsc7pGuCb0g9sPgT31pdfbWNewPojXQipZJp3JFIEDR3WQZrfgcqDGUbFWo7QN5hGLzt gAvw== X-Received: by 10.152.5.169 with SMTP id t9mr400lat.12.1411129211304; Fri, 19 Sep 2014 05:20:11 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.152.18.133 with SMTP id w5ls344545lad.24.gmail; Fri, 19 Sep 2014 05:20:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.112.151.3 with SMTP id um3mr76415lbb.15.1411129208740; Fri, 19 Sep 2014 05:20:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-we0-x22e.google.com (mail-we0-x22e.google.com [2a00:1450:400c:c03::22e]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i6si91505wiy.0.2014.09.19.05.20.08 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 19 Sep 2014 05:20:08 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c03::22e as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c03::22e; Received: by mail-we0-f174.google.com with SMTP id x48so2381512wes.19 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2014 05:20:08 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.203.8 with SMTP id km8mr699038wjc.51.1411129208647; Fri, 19 Sep 2014 05:20:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.89.193 with HTTP; Fri, 19 Sep 2014 05:20:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2014 16:20:08 +0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] {dizlo} in {le cmalu noltru} From: Gleki Arxokuna To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c03::22e as permitted sender) smtp.mail=gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bae47e636b67c05036a1f4f X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - --047d7bae47e636b67c05036a1f4f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 2014-09-19 15:59 GMT+04:00 Jorge Llamb=C3=ADas : > > > On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 4:48 AM, Gleki Arxokuna < > gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote: > >> {lo dizlo be lo bitmu} =3Dthe foot of the wall. >> >> But wait, >> {dizlo} =3D x1 is low/down/downward in frame of reference x2 as compared >> with baseline/standard height x3. >> >> does this "frame of reference" mean that it should be the lowest point o= f >> an object ("wall")? >> > > I don't think dizlo1 _has to_ be be a part of dizlo2, but it _can_ be. > > >> How to fill all places of {dizlo} then? >> >> I never know quite what to do with "by standard" places, I think they > should all be dropped. Presumably in this particular case the "standard > height" might be half way up the wall. > As for {dizlo3} it is probably the gravitating body so I suppose dizlo3=3Dterdi1 in all events happening on this planet. > mu'o mi'e xorxes > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. 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2014-09-19 15:59 GMT+04:00 Jorge Llamb=C3=ADas <jjllambias@gmail.co= m>:


On= Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 4:48 AM, Gleki Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@g= mail.com> wrote:
{lo dizlo be lo bitmu} =C2=A0=3Dthe foot of the wall.

But wait,
{dizlo} =3D x1 is low/down/downward in fram= e of reference x2 as compared with baseline/standard height x3.
<= br>
does this "frame of reference" mean that it s= hould be the lowest point of an object ("wall")?

I don't think dizlo1 _has to_ be be = a part of dizlo2, but it _can_ be.
=C2=A0
<= blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px= #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
How to fill all places = of {dizlo} then?

I never know quite what to d= o with "by standard" places, I think they should all be dropped. = Presumably in this particular case the "standard height" might be= half way up the wall.

As for = =C2=A0{dizlo3} it is probably the gravitating body so I suppose dizlo3=3Dte= rdi1 in all events happening on this planet.


=
mu'o mi'e xorxes

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