Received: from mail-yk0-f183.google.com ([209.85.160.183]:47144) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XUxwh-00066q-7z for lojban-beginners-archive@lojban.org; Fri, 19 Sep 2014 06:09:56 -0700 Received: by mail-yk0-f183.google.com with SMTP id q9sf203523ykb.20 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2014 06:09:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=BEH1oRXmpdrYb/eOrDQ1UKogtRF3pBFY149DH40V0dM=; b=BEwg5pdL90nmCf6g2E5kO3xAjOXQnSKPm92rc9jUOplhOOBuQdaJ0+XpjcEHRnDLq3 epePMJkGV4RL6bcJQ5/3c6kyVjfWeWwJ+z4xM2W2GTT+EzxJ9YlQYnqWlGPUWyPoXNkM g1UqKgQnPURCpiDeCsP703woj1UtKBJr6QhMcafM4ejTYCV+KcgSBMKy+JkRsEqYhtMV p5x36C4fkace/PYxEPKZeWp/tYhENGFdzrq2jNt14D216BMIMcBLGzxiYznLHR1EtO3r ANb2nl6nBESQcPcd2VuuOY733LJ69lfMHFdUG52DHK+nZ0137GGVpLO3/r46ofgA5XAh vnfA== X-Received: by 10.50.79.201 with SMTP id l9mr149610igx.11.1411132188844; Fri, 19 Sep 2014 06:09:48 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.112.164 with SMTP id ir4ls450809igb.29.gmail; Fri, 19 Sep 2014 06:09:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.68.219.226 with SMTP id pr2mr10038182pbc.4.1411132187731; Fri, 19 Sep 2014 06:09:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qa0-x22e.google.com (mail-qa0-x22e.google.com [2607:f8b0:400d:c00::22e]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i3si51271qcm.3.2014.09.19.06.09.47 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 19 Sep 2014 06:09:47 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400d:c00::22e as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:400d:c00::22e; Received: by mail-qa0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id f12so2582370qad.33 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2014 06:09:47 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.229.74.136 with SMTP id u8mr8716167qcj.5.1411132187471; Fri, 19 Sep 2014 06:09:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.201.74 with HTTP; Fri, 19 Sep 2014 06:09:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <5076980.qB49T6XaTr@caracal> Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2014 09:09:47 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] lamji4 From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: Mturniansky@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400d:c00::22e as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mturniansky@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1133ba30c3f73505036ad076 X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - --001a1133ba30c3f73505036ad076 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gleki, Is your question one about usage as both spatial and temporal dimensions? Because if so, lojban has no problem with that many times things like that. "cimde" itself, for example, can be either measurement. "ti" can be either "here" or "now". lidne can be referring either to something in a line, a time sequence, or even just an abstract mathematical concept. Or am I missing the subject of your query? ---gejyspa On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 2:52 AM, Gleki Arxokuna wrote: > This differs with other usage where lamji4 was {lo ka ce'u ce'u purci}. > > {la potygug cu maji la sangug lo ka stuzi vau lo ka ce'u ce'u stici vo'a}= ? > > 2014-05-08 20:29 GMT+04:00 Pierre Abbat : > >> On Thursday, May 08, 2014 15:47:45 Gleki Arxokuna wrote: >> > what would be the most useful example of lamji with the four places >> filled >> > in? >> >> Don't know about the *most* useful, but here's one: >> >> la .potygug. lamji la .sangug. lo ka stuzi lo stici >> >> The definition doesn't clarify whether lo ve lamji cu farna lo lamji lo = se >> lamji gi'ikau farna lo se lamji lo lamji. >> >> mu'omi'e .pier. >> -- >> La sal en el mar es m=C3=A1s que en la sangre. >> Le sel dans la mer est plus que dans le sang. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group= s >> "Lojban Beginners" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send a= n >> email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. 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Gleki,=C2=A0
=C2=A0 Is your question one about usage a= s both spatial and temporal dimensions? =C2=A0Because if so, lojban has no = problem with that many times things like that. =C2=A0"cimde" itse= lf, for example, can be either measurement. =C2=A0"ti" can be eit= her "here" or "now". =C2=A0lidne can be referring eithe= r to something in a line, a time sequence, or even just an abstract mathema= tical concept.

=C2=A0 Or am I missing the subject = of your query?
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ---gejyspa
<= br>

On= Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 2:52 AM, Gleki Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@g= mail.com> wrote:
This differs with other usage where lamji4 was {lo ka ce'u ce&= #39;u purci}.

{la potygug cu maji la sangug lo ka st= uzi vau lo ka ce'u ce'u stici vo'a}?

2014-05-08 20:29 GMT+04:00 Pierre Abbat <phma@bezitopo.org>= :
On Thursday, May 08, 2014 = 15:47:45 Gleki Arxokuna wrote:
> what would be the most useful example of lamji with the four places fi= lled
> in?

Don't know about the *most* useful, but here's one:

la .potygug. lamji la .sangug. lo ka stuzi lo stici

The definition doesn't clarify whether lo ve lamji cu farna lo lamji lo= se
lamji gi'ikau farna lo se lamji lo lamji.

mu'omi'e .pier.
--
La sal en el mar es m=C3=A1s que en la sangre.
Le sel dans la mer est plus que dans le sang.

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