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Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] precise tenru
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2014-09-24 19:45 GMT+04:00 TR NS <transfire@gmail.com>:

> So the seltau and tertau of a tenru
>

tanru, not tenru.


> have an ambiguous (aka metaphorical) relationship
>

i'd say just vague.


> that is left to the reader/listener to determine (by convention and
> context). But what if one wanted to be more specific. e.g. from example
> 5.2.8 of the CLL:
>
>     klama jubme
>
> A number of possible interpretations are given. The first and most obvious
> is "a-goer type-of-table". What if I wanted to make that interpretation
> quite clear so there could be no other interpretation? I can't say:
>
>     klama .e jubme
>
> b/c that would mean a "a goer and a table". I want to say in effect "x is
> a goer and x is a table". How to do that?
>

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te">2014-09-24 19:45 GMT+04:00 TR NS <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailt=
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ng-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"> have an ambiguous (aka metaphorical) relatio=
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>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 klama jubme</div><div><br></div><div>A number of possible in=
terpretations are given. The first and most obvious is &quot;a-goer type-of=
-table&quot;. What if I wanted to make that interpretation quite clear so t=
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><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 klama .e jubme</div><div><br></div><div>b/c that would =
mean a &quot;a goer and a table&quot;. I want to say in effect &quot;x is a=
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