Received: from mail-oi0-f56.google.com ([209.85.218.56]:35037) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XXYt4-00085m-AG for lojban-beginners-archive@lojban.org; Fri, 26 Sep 2014 10:00:59 -0700 Received: by mail-oi0-f56.google.com with SMTP id u20sf2325358oif.21 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2014 10:00:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=vyfOWGAAorVJC8B8EG/E1zfTwyP+0FGdfeU30q3cyLo=; b=N8dYND7HxJp9hM/rHsQsm6Yx0bkaVfi9tm/C7syOKlmLv3KuFujir4nJ86qFNJbBYj YO5IktZgJkcCVrBrJjl7ygK6znXiZQaXQnjQEoWktVHQRK3JcG6Pq/NRpFwhY2/+QkFE fdwSsO3oRbJ/HrxPPI8zYtzVr3W+IRk3QjuHxwRfh4Ww/hQ7D66DCZxHb8oX4yuKpNEK h5qRaZGAynEYXBZm3bzHiTvvLRmt3hiHjGcsCmSVJDKkrk70RCwVAnIZfmELDkfuotb0 DvTxPl4COq8tdJ0W4zcXlyX76tOVEJnVP/ZuVdX5cNITJrGlFgOTEwPskZ/ECDGJHLpo e/ig== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=vyfOWGAAorVJC8B8EG/E1zfTwyP+0FGdfeU30q3cyLo=; b=K9Y0s/zMsumB7z8R5vZWlF6a0wUQbOV8LYxliqTKp2C88fLmq7u52YqnkcvLTLkhhm uafOyNDlweEv68vsZGPDED/ZCTC1bG1ZXzGExSSnh9UjMKIldflkER1i102e+gQ6GWql kDxnI7rbtwjzxz6fgVIFlu2hJhmPbn9Q0QcxB2v2Rl9k0ZO8izPB7Nz2n0rEfbp4eVX1 oYu9LxBF3oQM7rCOYpFf0ayj4O8k6+JfW1owWL5tJUfnLER8KpdTOHuIFkpBJa0b/CHd M6/Rt7Bn7REfaqYuc3FvKAvDdtthe42+/fleDyKjQtng+qNXtyp6+gfO1BJxSCcQBbiR I5yQ== X-Received: by 10.140.30.246 with SMTP id d109mr70808qgd.7.1411750847960; Fri, 26 Sep 2014 10:00:47 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.140.88.84 with SMTP id s78ls1261808qgd.22.gmail; Fri, 26 Sep 2014 10:00:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.140.102.38 with SMTP id v35mr75654qge.6.1411750846815; Fri, 26 Sep 2014 10:00:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2014 10:00:46 -0700 (PDT) From: TR NS To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] oi bei MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: transfire@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_533_985841298.1411750846154" X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.7 X-Spam_score_int: -26 X-Spam_bar: -- ------=_Part_533_985841298.1411750846154 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Thursday, September 25, 2014 8:44:12 PM UTC-4, tsani wrote: > > There's no post in this thread in particular that this is relevant to, but > I wrote a little paper on {be} some time ago and posted it to the list. Now > it's on the wiki. You may want to read it, TR, but it's a bit tough. I show > that with standard grammar you can get the same effect as bei without bei > :) I also explore what {be} really does. In summary, it's a selbri > transformer like {se} that constructs a new selbri from an existing one. > This is in contrast with selbri constructors like ME, MOI, and NU, which > construct selbri from things that aren't selbri. > > http://mw.lojban.org/index.php?title=Advanced_Place_Structure_Mangling > > That was very interesting. Albeit also a bit scary. Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. ------=_Part_533_985841298.1411750846154 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Thursday, September 25, 2014 8:44:12 PM UTC-4, = tsani wrote:
T= here's no post in this thread in particular that this is relevant to, but I= wrote a little paper on {be} some time ago and posted it to the list. Now = it's on the wiki. You may want to read it, TR, but it's a bit tough. I show= that with standard grammar you can get the same effect as bei without bei = :) I also explore what {be} really does. In summary, it's a selbri transfor= mer like {se} that constructs a new selbri from an existing one. This is in= contrast with selbri constructors like ME, MOI, and NU, which construct se= lbri from things that aren't selbri.



That = was very interesting. Albeit also a bit scary.
 
T= hanks.

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