Received: from mail-qa0-f64.google.com ([209.85.216.64]:45637) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XxWVb-0008Cd-6Q for lojban-beginners-archive@lojban.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2014 23:44:01 -0800 Received: by mail-qa0-f64.google.com with SMTP id s7sf491398qap.29 for ; Sat, 06 Dec 2014 23:43:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:user-agent:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:content-type:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe; bh=gIy1zsmW+CioR9stg+aPaQanUTQxHIp9UIt0ceW4hiY=; b=CTQm3P8p0dcS4yvHKjMqvihRwhq4JBrBpsm6NcHresfp/kY49jbi7NwKH23UDHxuod EBa4WrIu1GFuZ2ge2U1bNVFiMQ2BfO+OAbHX5uU9MOdsCC8uiPhNAgZHnN8SYm4j4V4M ArwYikEEwv+WisDPW1WWNOJilYNZObAI7afmR7MmznMK9/mE2ioFe5QTGzyyQZOOKW51 Rff0UlaUV+Tmux5EjWTpfSbTF5N6Kiw1B+rJZM8VMggpl90E0D63K4p3k76npSxu8zOS ApgKQ/46a4llhffgu3XzpDwWeaI3dai7gQ3H5i1xoBiaWun/3x9anup+za7vywktr0VH 2cEA== X-Received: by 10.50.49.52 with SMTP id r20mr150941ign.8.1417938233236; Sat, 06 Dec 2014 23:43:53 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.107.17.66 with SMTP id z63ls1699890ioi.81.gmail; Sat, 06 Dec 2014 23:43:52 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.43.99.202 with SMTP id ct10mr27796193icc.29.1417938232574; Sat, 06 Dec 2014 23:43:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com. [107.14.166.227]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id jq13si4044582pbb.1.2014.12.06.23.43.52 for ; Sat, 06 Dec 2014 23:43:52 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: none (google.com: phma@bezitopo.org does not designate permitted sender hosts) client-ip=107.14.166.227; Received: from [98.122.190.249] ([98.122.190.249:43331] helo=leopard.ixazon.lan) by cdptpa-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 16/12-27907-63504845; Sun, 07 Dec 2014 07:43:50 +0000 Received: from caracal.localnet (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by leopard.ixazon.lan (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4412418D9 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2014 02:43:49 -0500 (EST) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] appearance Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2014 02:43:46 -0500 Message-ID: <1860567.XlQqthxmc4@caracal> User-Agent: KMail/4.13.3 (Linux/3.13.0-40-generic; KDE/4.13.3; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: <76021408-e3d0-4f7c-af20-df9fce65db2f@googlegroups.com> <2234086.Ltq2rZA5F7@caracal> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-RR-Connecting-IP: 107.14.168.130:25 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Original-Sender: phma@bezitopo.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=none (google.com: phma@bezitopo.org does not designate permitted sender hosts) smtp.mail=phma@bezitopo.org Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - On Sunday, December 07, 2014 10:32:13 Gleki Arxokuna wrote: > Technically by {ta} we can assume a place and thus {lo ta tricu} can imply > {lo va tricu} Can, but does not necessarily. {ta} could refer to a castle at a medium distance, and the castle has a tree, which is inside the castle grounds, and therefore also at a medium distance. But if {ta} refers to a man who is at a medium distance, his tree could easily be far away. Pierre -- The gostak pelled at the fostin lutt for darfs for her martle plave. The darfs had smibbed, the lutt was thale, and the pilter had nothing snave. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.