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On 15/12/2014 05:58, ravas wrote:
> "Give us a moment, please."
> I found this sentence here:
> http://tatoeba.org/eng/sentences/show/2645083
> It had a lojban translation:
> {ko tu'a mi ze'i denpa}
>
> Obviously the English sentence is an idiom,
> which we won't translate directly.
> However, is the aforementioned lojban coherent?
>
> I think {e'o do ze'i denpa} would work.
>
> Another translation could be {e'o do ze'i xrukla vi}.
>
> I also thought of:
> {e'o mi'a ze'i djica lo nu sivtavla}
> [Request] We [for a short time period] want to privately talk.

Both {ko tu'a mi ze'i denpa} and {.e'o do ze'i denpa} seem okay to me.

{.e'o do ze'i xrukla vi} =E2=80=94 "please go back for a short time and at =
a=20
short distance" ~ "please be such that, during a short time, at a short=20
distance, you're going back".
I'm not quite sure what did you mean with this one sentence, but it=20
isn't suitable for the original English sentence.
Maybe did you want {.e'o do ze'i zvada'o} =E2=80=94 "please be away for a s=
hort=20
duration"?

As for {.e'o mi'a ze'i djica lo nu siv*y*tavla}, the way {.e'o} is=20
usually used, it would mean "I request you that for a short time we want=20
private-talking", in which "we want" seems misplaced.
I'd have said {.e'o mi'a ze'i sivycasnu} =E2=80=94 "I request you that=20
me-and-the-other(s) privatly talk to each other for a small duration" =E2=
=80=94,=20
or {.e'o curmi lo nu mi'a ze'i sivycasnu}.

.a'o mi sidju
mi'e la .ilmen. mu'o

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    <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">On 15/12/2014 05:58, ravas wrote:<br>
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      <div dir=3D"ltr">"Give us a moment, please."<br>
        I found this sentence here: <br>
        <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D"http://tatoeba.org/eng/s=
entences/show/2645083">http://tatoeba.org/eng/sentences/show/2645083</a><br=
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        It had a lojban translation:<br>
        {ko tu'a mi ze'i denpa}<br>
        <br>
        Obviously the English sentence is an idiom,<br>
        which we won't translate directly.<br>
        However, is the aforementioned lojban coherent?<br>
        <br>
        I think {e'o do ze'i denpa} would work.<br>
        <br>
        Another translation could be {e'o do ze'i xrukla vi}.<br>
        <br>
        I also thought of:<br>
        {e'o mi'a ze'i djica lo nu sivtavla}<br>
        [Request] We [for a short time period] want to privately talk.<br>
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    <br>
    Both {ko tu'a mi ze'i denpa} and {.e'o do ze'i denpa} seem okay to
    me.<br>
    <br>
    {.e'o do ze'i xrukla vi} =E2=80=94 "please go back for a short time and=
 at a
    short distance" ~ "please be such that, during a short time, at a
    short distance, you're going back".<br>
    I'm not quite sure what did you mean with this one sentence, but it
    isn't suitable for the original English sentence.<br>
    Maybe did you want {.e'o do ze'i zvada'o} =E2=80=94 "please be away for=
 a
    short duration"?<br>
    <br>
    As for {.e'o mi'a ze'i djica lo nu siv<font color=3D"#660000"><b>y</b><=
/font>tavla},
    the way {.e'o} is usually used, it would mean "I request you that
    for a short time we want private-talking", in which "we want" seems
    misplaced.<br>
    I'd have said {.e'o mi'a ze'i sivycasnu} =E2=80=94 "I request you that
    me-and-the-other(s) privatly talk to each other for a small
    duration" =E2=80=94, or {.e'o curmi lo nu mi'a ze'i sivycasnu}.<br>
    <br>
    .a'o mi sidju<br>
    mi'e la .ilmen. mu'o<br>
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