Received: from mail-vc0-f186.google.com ([209.85.220.186]:33645) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1Y5Fa2-000243-QY for lojban-beginners-archive@lojban.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2014 07:16:33 -0800 Received: by mail-vc0-f186.google.com with SMTP id im6sf2010619vcb.23 for ; Sun, 28 Dec 2014 07:16:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:user-agent:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=4/3t4I3AJAH2QLoa99KGaodA4hv/fmHP2pXEl5XYKGE=; b=LThPwS14Hcv7AnM/jL/ihovxoiwQT84N4cAVNAii6BIfIDv2QGkFGwTxkf+l/N/Yob 1MpQNRFGJxz/nyruAFH/1ZmkhfgPnYFX3X06L+Yv6/sSI0alnODb4xKp8l5iBv5DvLAQ nbluQfpVP7JhQydJkxKppuEAHxNuwJigK25APam+3Z0VOWRTdptbxmAhDMr2bKs/j2pO ghKr7aBGgU7cfMWj7RRwx/c3sqwIfi0G1wkM9VlHCAQv3+UuAKmuG6rIVCcXTG8rFXps Djs2osVf+poHD+NFpKCKOJ14u7nwFR4OIpxf/0nRXmJc4bszJAxuDFl41+02OWFaKZ0n TbOQ== X-Received: by 10.50.107.4 with SMTP id gy4mr626308igb.10.1419779784747; Sun, 28 Dec 2014 07:16:24 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.107.29.5 with SMTP id d5ls4325941iod.19.gmail; Sun, 28 Dec 2014 07:16:24 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.66.248.10 with SMTP id yi10mr38487851pac.0.1419779783959; Sun, 28 Dec 2014 07:16:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com. [107.14.166.228]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id us1si4375775pab.0.2014.12.28.07.16.23 for ; Sun, 28 Dec 2014 07:16:23 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: none (google.com: phma@bezitopo.org does not designate permitted sender hosts) client-ip=107.14.166.228; Received: from [98.122.190.249] ([98.122.190.249:44930] helo=leopard.ixazon.lan) by cdptpa-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id DB/5D-04006-7CE10A45; Sun, 28 Dec 2014 15:16:23 +0000 Received: from caracal.localnet (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by leopard.ixazon.lan (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4264F15A0 for ; Sun, 28 Dec 2014 10:16:22 -0500 (EST) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] What type of food do you want to eat? Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2014 10:16:20 -0500 Message-ID: <3626188.cHOyOc4jiC@caracal> User-Agent: KMail/4.13.3 (Linux/3.13.0-43-generic; KDE/4.13.3; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <6d4ce845-f808-4c1a-8bc2-4c4507ba3f78@googlegroups.com> References: <6d4ce845-f808-4c1a-8bc2-4c4507ba3f78@googlegroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-RR-Connecting-IP: 107.14.168.130:25 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Original-Sender: phma@bezitopo.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=none (google.com: phma@bezitopo.org does not designate permitted sender hosts) smtp.mail=phma@bezitopo.org Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - On Friday, December 26, 2014 22:35:09 ravas wrote: > The most recent thing learning lojban has made me more aware of is the > English pattern: > ... do you want to ... >=20 > Examples for review: >=20 > What type of food do you want to eat? > do djica lo ma cidja I'd say "lo mo cidja". "lo ma cidja", as already stated, means "whose food"= . > What do you want to eat? > pei citka ma "do djica lo nu citka ma" or "audai citka ma". "pei citka ma" is a double= =20 question, "How do you feel about eating what?". > Where do you want to eat? > pei citka tu'i ma "audai citka bu'u ma". Besides what xorxes said, "bu'u" is a tense word,=20 whereas "tu'i" is a proper preposition. (The syntactic distinction is that= =20 proper prepositions can be preceded by SE; semantically, all proper=20 prepositions are equivalent to "fi'o ", except for "do'e" which is = "fi'o=20 co'e".) > Why do you want to take that street? > do zmanei zo'e ki'u ma do klama fo ta poi klaji ku'o .audai ki'u ma and there are three other ways to ask "why": "mu'i ma", "seja'e ma", and "n= i'i=20 ma". Pierre --=20 La sal en el mar es m=C3=A1s que en la sangre. Le sel dans la mer est plus que dans le sang. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.