Received: from mail-lb0-f186.google.com ([209.85.217.186]:57723) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1Y7mG5-0008CX-OK for lojban-beginners-archive@lojban.org; Sun, 04 Jan 2015 06:34:23 -0800 Received: by mail-lb0-f186.google.com with SMTP id w7sf2125528lbi.13 for ; Sun, 04 Jan 2015 06:34:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=JOzju2eR8LNyxl5LOAOMXXlw9RZ/h5adOrwpzz8cg6E=; b=IhkYB8QmHVT1e2pZYtTHSr3TJMlB/fTdtWBjGmPyNJY2kxsNogCkuOdtX2QK+d6Iw0 xQ2oACJWpoGyc/DZNmNsMlr/oljqzRVMOs6XwtRBOORcVqUMxGPiyiCPKi9rANCUNMIf z5QDB2tE+h3OuPfubBu+8kYm8zWc1q5hgfzr6hEhQX2CgYOrkGZav43DIndzqauAWGJF oxfuxK67PBXJvvlI2X4c1xaA1AUegrobAWjfLCkr7KGbhPpnZZ8WidiuHEaYDiv/Lf1n Unn9ChcCI5EeKOIe4TGCLNWjAe6Tyi2Tl/jTSA/DhoJjCg/t+QL+adDNa2NEKvm9CDfU qhEA== X-Received: by 10.181.13.244 with SMTP id fb20mr38421wid.3.1420382054645; Sun, 04 Jan 2015 06:34:14 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.180.97.66 with SMTP id dy2ls209397wib.44.gmail; Sun, 04 Jan 2015 06:34:13 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.194.92.34 with SMTP id cj2mr769wjb.5.1420382053533; Sun, 04 Jan 2015 06:34:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-wi0-x22e.google.com (mail-wi0-x22e.google.com. [2a00:1450:400c:c05::22e]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id gb6si313784wib.3.2015.01.04.06.34.13 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 04 Jan 2015 06:34:13 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::22e as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c05::22e; Received: by mail-wi0-f174.google.com with SMTP id h11so1839295wiw.7 for ; Sun, 04 Jan 2015 06:34:13 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.181.28.165 with SMTP id jp5mr16477496wid.76.1420382053425; Sun, 04 Jan 2015 06:34:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.27.204.139 with HTTP; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 06:34:13 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <5c0f1cb6-ace3-4d34-86fb-ea7857a5221e@googlegroups.com> References: <5c0f1cb6-ace3-4d34-86fb-ea7857a5221e@googlegroups.com> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2015 11:34:13 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] perpendicular From: =?UTF-8?Q?Jorge_Llamb=C3=ADas?= To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1137eac4bd65da050bd47748 X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::22e as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - --001a1137eac4bd65da050bd47748 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 5:23 AM, ravas wrote: > I want to be able to say: > > Line "a" is perpendicular with line "b". > I'd go with "sraji": lo linji po'u .abu cu sraji lo linji po'u by Create a line that is perpendicular with line "k" and includes point "C". > ko zmadu lo linji poi sraji lo linji po'u ky gi'e vasru lo mokca po'u cy > The radical line of two circles is perpendicular with the line that > includes their centers. > lo [radical line] be lo re cukla cu sraji lo linji be lo re midju be cy > For geometric construction, my opening suggestion would be: > > x1 (line) defines four equal angles (is perpendicular) with line x2 and > includes point(s) x3 and intersects "x2" at x4 > I wouldn't restrict it to lines. A lline can be perpendicular to a plane, and also it should be usable with general objects, as in: lo grana cu sraji lo bitmu The pole is perpendicular to the wall. For your full description I think it's more clear to use three separate predicates: ko'a linji ko'e gi'e sraji ko'i gi'e kruca ko'i ko'o But if you must, you could make it into a lujvo: kucrajli'i mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --001a1137eac4bd65da050bd47748 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

= On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 5:23 AM, ravas <ravas@outlook.com> wr= ote:
I want to be able to say:

Line "a&q= uot; is perpendicular with line "b".

I'd go with "sraji":

lo linji po'u .abu cu sraji lo linji po'u by

Create a line that is perpendicular with line "= ;k" and includes point "C".

ko zmadu lo linji poi sraji lo linji po'u ky gi'e = vasru lo mokca po'u cy
=C2=A0
The ra= dical line of two circles is perpendicular with the line that includes thei= r centers.

lo [radical lin= e] be lo re cukla cu sraji lo linji be lo re midju be cy
=C2=A0
For geometric construction, my opening suggestion w= ould be:

x1 (line) defines four equal angles (is perpendicular) with= line x2 and includes point(s) x3 and intersects "x2" at x4
=C2=A0
I wouldn't restrict it to= lines. A lline can be perpendicular to a plane, and also it should be usab= le with general objects, as in:

=C2=A0 lo grana cu= sraji lo bitmu
=C2=A0 The pole is perpendicular to the wall.

For your full description I think it's more clear= to use three separate predicates:

=C2=A0 ko'a= linji ko'e gi'e sraji ko'i gi'e kruca ko'i ko'o

But if you must, you could make it into a lujvo: kuc= rajli'i

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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