Received: from mail-ig0-f192.google.com ([209.85.213.192]:55862) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1Y81uF-0000DG-Nb for lojban-beginners-archive@lojban.org; Sun, 04 Jan 2015 23:16:53 -0800 Received: by mail-ig0-f192.google.com with SMTP id b16sf470224igk.9 for ; Sun, 04 Jan 2015 23:16:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :content-type:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe; bh=AfyhUSPmJ34h+b+SFYv6bVTsm44w3P0Ix16fl/+DywA=; b=w6LZQSrJQgcqfVO0Z5eykcZ7XHjNKwgauu0eqZE2hBekNt/xGRXq6htG+ejJsP1Vwi 2TFJA1FsFq6ltDkwlz2LtMmEuIgOA4TuVsZzShIPargnHkWmCeCQBRQWVZaXjTr6JSMA S1dtW+/AsHNiREuV4+0kcweLiyLMY2GHkTwCZnrpJAV9kppwc4G5T/nGh9MKUWSz0ruL zx8szYWIcl53xoEE/GEMumvzXhKkB7hl7NqCpmeOcfV8MCbiZpeJ27R10Hkja0OrpJCY i73awhE2x4pQVnTGQ8EVaO8O20ZYs/ZtVme7muTDhfwpPDyZ4tcskNuY4aO6CSQPLmQv StTw== X-Received: by 10.182.250.200 with SMTP id ze8mr492843obc.3.1420442205871; Sun, 04 Jan 2015 23:16:45 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.182.94.204 with SMTP id de12ls2168802obb.56.gmail; Sun, 04 Jan 2015 23:16:44 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.182.165.4 with SMTP id yu4mr5234obb.26.1420442204798; Sun, 04 Jan 2015 23:16:44 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2015 23:16:44 -0800 (PST) From: ravas To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <5c0f1cb6-ace3-4d34-86fb-ea7857a5221e@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] perpendicular MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_10397_474036303.1420442204311" X-Original-Sender: ravas@outlook.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - ------=_Part_10397_474036303.1420442204311 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_10398_2111297798.1420442204311" ------=_Part_10398_2111297798.1420442204311 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 ki'ecai .io xorxes: I'd go with "sraji". *sraji* *x1 is vertical/upright/erect/plumb/oriented straight up and down in reference frame/gravity x2.* What are the various things that work as a "reference frame"? xorxes: I wouldn't restrict it to lines. A line can be perpendicular to a plane, and also it should be usable with general objects. If you think sraji works, then I suggest that it could be used for general objects, and a different word could be used for lines and planes. The relationship of two lines or planes forming four equal angles seems unique. xorxes: For your full description I think it's more clear to use three separate predicates. I formed a similar thought. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. ------=_Part_10398_2111297798.1420442204311 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
ki'eca= i .io

xorxes: I'd go w= ith "sraji"
.

sraji
x1 is vertical/upright/erect/plumb/oriented straight up= and down in reference frame/gravity x2.


What are the various things that work a= s a "reference frame"?

xorxes: I wouldn't restrict it to lines. A line can be perpendicular to a = plane, and also it should be usable with general objects.

If you think sraji works, =
then I suggest that it could be used for general objects,
and a dif= ferent word could be used for lines and planes.
The relationship of two lines or planes forming
fou= r equal angles seems unique.

xorxes: For your full description I think it's more clear to use thr= ee separate predicates.

I formed a similar thought.

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