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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Thank you! That is very helpful! I've taken a look at the poem and I'll see what I can do with it. The only thing I really don't understand is the te in "te zu'e tu'a lo cersai". What does it do? On Sunday, January 11, 2015 at 1:21:27 AM UTC+1, guskant wrote: > > > > Le dimanche 11 janvier 2015 02:23:16 UTC+9, Erik Natanael Gustafsson a > écrit : >> >> Hi! >> >> I have just started learning Lojban, partly because I find the very >> different grammar interesting, and partly because I am looking for a >> culturally neutral language for use in some of my art (I am a composer and >> musician). However, when most people don't know a language it is very >> important how it sounds. Lojban seems to have a lot of short words, >> resulting in very many syllables needed for rather simple sentences. It >> also seems heavy on consonants, while vowels are arguably more important >> when singing. Do any of you have any experience in making music or poetry >> in Lojban and would you mind sharing your thoughts about how well suited >> Lojban is this? Also, if any of you have a short poem in Lojban that I >> could try to use for a composition, I would be most grateful. >> >> Cheers >> Erik Natanael Gustafsson >> > > > coi fi'i la .erik. > > Here is some lojban songs sung by me: > https://vimeo.com/album/3152276 > http://fotono.tumblr.com/tagged/jbosnavei > > I know some of recordings of la selpa'i are lojban songs: > https://www.youtube.com/user/shanikuzai/videos > > As for a short poem in Lojban for your composition, I recommend a > translation by la mukti of "This is just to say" by William Carlos Williams: > https://vimeo.com/113054946#t=8m50s > > mi'e la guskant mu'o > > [...] Content analysis details: (0.8 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. 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That is very helpful! I've taken a look at the poem and I'll see= =20 what I can do with it. The only thing I really don't understand is the te= =20 in "te zu'e tu'a lo cersai". What does it do? On Sunday, January 11, 2015 at 1:21:27 AM UTC+1, guskant wrote: > > > > Le dimanche 11 janvier 2015 02:23:16 UTC+9, Erik Natanael Gustafsson a=20 > =C3=A9crit : >> >> Hi! >> >> I have just started learning Lojban, partly because I find the very=20 >> different grammar interesting, and partly because I am looking for a=20 >> culturally neutral language for use in some of my art (I am a composer a= nd=20 >> musician). However, when most people don't know a language it is very=20 >> important how it sounds. Lojban seems to have a lot of short words,=20 >> resulting in very many syllables needed for rather simple sentences. It= =20 >> also seems heavy on consonants, while vowels are arguably more important= =20 >> when singing. Do any of you have any experience in making music or poetr= y=20 >> in Lojban and would you mind sharing your thoughts about how well suited= =20 >> Lojban is this? Also, if any of you have a short poem in Lojban that I= =20 >> could try to use for a composition, I would be most grateful. >> >> Cheers >> Erik Natanael Gustafsson >> > > > coi fi'i la .erik. > > Here is some lojban songs sung by me: > https://vimeo.com/album/3152276 > http://fotono.tumblr.com/tagged/jbosnavei > > I know some of recordings of la selpa'i are lojban songs: > https://www.youtube.com/user/shanikuzai/videos > > As for a short poem in Lojban for your composition, I recommend a=20 > translation by la mukti of "This is just to say" by William Carlos Willia= ms: > https://vimeo.com/113054946#t=3D8m50s > > mi'e la guskant mu'o > =20 > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. 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Thank you! That is very helpful! I've taken a look at the = poem and I'll see what I can do with it. The only thing I really don't unde= rstand is the te in "te zu'e tu'a lo cersai". What does it do?

On Su= nday, January 11, 2015 at 1:21:27 AM UTC+1, guskant wrote:


Le dimanche 11 janvier= 2015 02:23:16 UTC+9, Erik Natanael Gustafsson a =C3=A9crit :
Hi!

I have just star= ted learning Lojban, partly because I find the very different grammar inter= esting, and partly because I am looking for a culturally neutral language f= or use in some of my art (I am a composer and musician). However, when most= people don't know a language it is very important how it sounds. Lojban se= ems to have a lot of short words, resulting in very many syllables needed f= or rather simple sentences. It also seems heavy on consonants, while vowels= are arguably more important when singing. Do any of you have any experienc= e in making music or poetry in Lojban and would you mind sharing your thoug= hts about how well suited Lojban is this? Also, if any of you have a short = poem in Lojban that I could try to use for a composition, I would be most g= rateful.

Cheers
Erik Natanael Gustafsson


coi fi'i la .erik.

Here is= some lojban songs sung by me:
https://vimeo.com/album/<= wbr>3152276
http://foto= no.tumblr.com/tagged/jbosnavei

= I know some of recordings of la selpa'i are lojban songs:
https://w= ww.youtube.com/user/shanikuzai/videos

As for a short poem in Lojban for your composition, I recommend a tr= anslation by la mukti of "This is just to say" by William Carlos Williams:<= /span>
https://vimeo.com/113054946#t=3D8= m50s

mi'e la guska= nt mu'o
 

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