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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: la'o me. Erik Natanael Gustafsson .me cusku di'e > Thank you! That is very helpful! I've taken a look at the poem and I'll > see what I can do with it. The only thing I really don't understand is > the te in "te zu'e tu'a lo cersai". What does it do? [...] Content analysis details: (0.8 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. [URIs: googlegroups.com] 2.7 DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL RBL: Envelope sender listed in dnsbl.ahbl.org [listed in googlegroups.com.rhsbl.ahbl.org. 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Without {te} it would just be {zu'e}, which specifies an actor. You can apply {se}, {te}, {ve}, {xe} to prepositions just like you can apply them to predicates. {zu'e} is based on {zukte} (it takes the x1), while {te zu'e} is the x3 of {zukte}; in other words the {te zukte}. Thus, {te zu'e tu'a lo cersai} says that {tu'a lo cersai} is a {te zukte}, a goal. mi'e la selpa'i mu'o -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.