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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: In short in corresponds to English "of" that is attached to nouns. {sazri} = to drive {sazri lo karce} = to drive a car {lo sazri} = driver {lo sazri be lo karce} = driver of a car http://mw.lojban.org/lmw/The_Crash_Course_(a_draft)#Places_for_nouns [...] Content analysis details: (0.8 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. [URIs: lojban.org] 2.7 DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL RBL: Envelope sender listed in dnsbl.ahbl.org [listed in googlegroups.com.rhsbl.ahbl.org. 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In short in corresponds to English "of" that is = attached to nouns.

{sazri} =3D to drive
{sazri= lo karce} =3D to drive a car
{lo sazri} =3D driver
{lo= sazri be lo karce} =3D driver of a car

http= ://mw.lojban.org/lmw/The_Crash_Course_(a_draft)#Places_for_nouns
I hope a more precise explanation will follow in this thread.


2015-01-30 19:52 GMT+03:00 Nathan Daly <fleskywood@gmail.co= m>:
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