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Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Confusion with {be}
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 Content preview:  Functionally, it ties together the selbri (the "verb", if
    you will, of the sentence) with the sumti (argument) that follows it: lo
   gerku [ku] cu klama lo zarci [ku] -- The dog goes to the store. lo gerku cu
    klama be lo zarci -- The dog is a goer-to-the-store [...] 
 
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  Functionally, it ties together the selbri (the "verb", if you will, of
the sentence) with the sumti (argument) that follows it:

lo gerku [ku] cu klama lo zarci [ku] -- The dog goes to the store.
lo gerku cu klama be lo zarci -- The dog is a goer-to-the-store

  These two sentences basically mean the same thing (there is a slight
difference in meaning which we needn't go into right now unless you are
interested).  So why the be?  Well, it becomes necessary if you want to
talk about a compound subject.  What if I wanted to say "The goer to the
store is fast?"  I can't say *"lo klama [ku] lo zarci [ku] cu sutra"
because that means "the goer is fast in performing the store (whatever THAT
means!?=the x2 of sutra).  So in order for the location, the store, to be
linked together with the action of going, I need "be":
   lo klama *be* lo zarci [ku] [be'o] [ku]  cu sutra (the goer-to-the-store
is fast)
                  --gejyspa


On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 11:52 AM, Nathan Daly <fleskywood@gmail.com> wrote:

> I don't really understand what {be} really is, can you guys explain to
> me what it's supposed to do in an easily understood way?
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<div dir=3D"ltr">=C2=A0 Functionally, it ties together the selbri (the &quo=
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follows it:<div><br></div><div>lo gerku [ku] cu klama lo zarci [ku] -- The =
dog goes to the store.</div><div>lo gerku cu klama be lo zarci -- The dog i=
s a goer-to-the-store</div><div><br></div><div>=C2=A0 These two sentences b=
asically mean the same thing (there is a slight difference in meaning which=
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the be?=C2=A0 Well, it becomes necessary if you want to talk about a compou=
nd subject.=C2=A0 What if I wanted to say &quot;The goer to the store is fa=
st?&quot; =C2=A0I can&#39;t say *&quot;lo klama [ku] lo zarci [ku] cu sutra=
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hatever THAT means!?=3Dthe x2 of sutra).=C2=A0 So in order for the location=
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39;o] [ku] =C2=A0cu sutra (the goer-to-the-store is fast)</div><div>=C2=A0 =
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>=C2=A0=C2=A0</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail=
_quote">On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 11:52 AM, Nathan Daly <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt=
;<a href=3D"mailto:fleskywood@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">fleskywood@gmail=
.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"ma=
rgin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"lt=
r">I don&#39;t really understand what {be} really is, can you guys explain =
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