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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: To amplify, just think of it as the word "she (or he, or it)". That causes all kinds of trouble in English like -- "Tony was Jack's father. He wears bright red pants. Yesterday went with Mary to the store" Care to guess which person the "he" is talking about in sentence two? How about sentence three? The same? Different? Well, lojban offers you a way to disambiguate those references with 10 different flavors of he/she/it (really many more, since you can use letterals or any arbitrary label at all). [...] Content analysis details: (0.8 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. 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That causes all kinds of trouble in English like -- "Tony was Jack's father. He wears bright red pants. Yesterday went with Mary to the store" Care to guess which person the "he" is talking about in sentence two? How about sentence three? The same? Different? Well, lojban offers you a way to disambiguate those references with 10 different flavors of he/she/it (really many more, since you can use letterals or any arbitrary label at all). --gejyspa On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 3:05 PM, Ian Johnson wrote: > Nothing. They are just available so that you have several variables to use > for assignments. > > mi'e la latro'a mu'o > > On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 2:02 PM, Nathan Daly wrote: > >> What even is the difference between ko'a, ko'e, ko'i, ko'o, and ko'u? >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Lojban Beginners" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. 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=C2=A0 To amplify, just think of it as the word "she = (or he, or it)".=C2=A0 That causes all kinds of trouble in English lik= e -- "Tony was Jack's father.=C2=A0 He wears bright red pants.=C2= =A0 Yesterday went with Mary to the store" =C2=A0Care to guess which p= erson the "he" is talking about in sentence two?=C2=A0 How about = sentence three?=C2=A0 The same?=C2=A0 Different?=C2=A0 Well, lojban offers = you a way to disambiguate those references with 10 different flavors of he/= she/it (really many more, since you can use letterals or any arbitrary labe= l at all).

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0--gejyspa


On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 3:05 PM, Ian Johnson <<= a href=3D"mailto:blindbravado@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">blindbravado@gma= il.com> wrote:
Nothing. They are just available so that you have several variables to= use for assignments.

mi'e la latro'a mu'o

On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 2:02 PM, Nathan Daly <fleskyw= ood@gmail.com> wrote:
What even is the difference between ko'a, ko'e, ko'= i, ko'o, and ko'u?

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