Received: from mail-qc0-f190.google.com ([209.85.216.190]:47417) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1YNk9b-0004So-AS for lojban-beginners-archive@lojban.org; Tue, 17 Feb 2015 07:33:43 -0800 Received: by mail-qc0-f190.google.com with SMTP id r5sf9261563qcx.7 for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2015 07:33:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=date:from:to:cc:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:content-type:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence :mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=i81zGpa2ZFTEgGvBTTdMDnssqDR27uBB9M6NJ3s9bCw=; b=jacaM2aksSc8Hw+O52NQVsLZIsMwkJKc6RFicKo9QDuSaf6EE+OmThsWQzs77VM8cN r4b+CQRIzbZ0RIZstj/sTzpo8g9uCf7k87M1w789KIJ/+CGhChEAWsaRGKZsMJh6zQ0z AGAEoZNtyLmhLsj30YNvbS4aCZPl2skvLQ2EkgOCyLT6o1E4PrUBQoEFJTtWh2pSORTm va5WDfC52C+ZqBCGfVvGqLhugJGc865BaaO8LSfYQStAJGyPU29qjmpG6W4sEVF+AmDf nUqJFOvK6km4uBcu1Zbe1yfRM/CCgxc/czBAFubexNjLoXjWFXhCz9r09p1U4JOu8Gob qXkg== X-Received: by 10.50.85.17 with SMTP id d17mr468671igz.7.1424187212174; Tue, 17 Feb 2015 07:33:32 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.107.161.139 with SMTP id k133ls792662ioe.20.gmail; Tue, 17 Feb 2015 07:33:31 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.50.2.71 with SMTP id 7mr25096865igs.4.1424187211064; Tue, 17 Feb 2015 07:33:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.224.223.18 with SMTP id ii18msqab; Tue, 17 Feb 2015 06:36:29 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.140.109.66 with SMTP id k60mr339821qgf.36.1424183789521; Tue, 17 Feb 2015 06:36:29 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 06:36:29 -0800 (PST) From: Dmitry Kourmyshov To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Cc: timothy.lawrence@connect.qut.edu.au Message-Id: <683f98bb-2fc0-44b0-b8c9-83e1c0d84281@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1424090547997.51564@connect.qut.edu.au> References: <94f8f05c-a218-4123-a1d5-347cfb83aecd@googlegroups.com>, <1424090547997.51564@connect.qut.edu.au> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Lojban versions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_388_1634639775.1424183789110" X-Original-Sender: dmitry.kourmyshov@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_bar: - ------=_Part_388_1634639775.1424183789110 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_389_632402354.1424183789110" ------=_Part_389_632402354.1424183789110 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Some of important Lojban version are listed in commentaries here:=20 http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/lookup.pl?Form=3Dlookup.pl2&Database=3D*&Query= =3Djo%27au They are: CLL http://www.lojban.org/jboski/, camxes http://camxes.lojban.org/ , zansi gerna http://www.lojban.org/tiki/zasni+gerna , ilmentufa http://mw.lojban.org/extensions/ilmentufa/camxes-exp.html, fancylojban http://mw.lojban.org/papri/fancylojban=20 http://mw.lojban.org/papri/ce_ki_tau_jau there are also La Bangu http://mw.lojban.org/papri/La_Bangu and IRC Lojban, which is a vernacular style of Lojban as spoken (mainly) on= =20 #lojban As far as I know, there are no Lojban Version Tree yet. M. =D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=BD=D0=B5=D0=B4=D0=B5=D0=BB=D1=8C=D0=BD=D0=B8=D0=BA, 16 =D1= =84=D0=B5=D0=B2=D1=80=D0=B0=D0=BB=D1=8F 2015 =D0=B3., 16:41:27 UTC+3 =D0=BF= =D0=BE=D0=BB=D1=8C=D0=B7=D0=BE=D0=B2=D0=B0=D1=82=D0=B5=D0=BB=D1=8C Timothy= =20 Lawrence =D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=81=D0=B0=D0=BB: > > Is there a page with a history of Lojban "versions"? > > > I've found this page but I was hoping for a summary just about the=20 > different official versions released:=20 > http://mw.lojban.org/index.php?title=3DLojban_timeline > =20 > > For example, the C++ programming language has had updated standards=20 > (known as C++11, C++14, et cetera). On the website, there seem to be (oft= en=20 > implicit) references to older versions of Lojban: do these have names? > =20 > > *Timothy E. Diamond Lawrence* > Programmer and Web Designer > =20 > Website: www.diamondlawrence.com=20 > > =20 > > ------------------------------ > *From:* loj...@googlegroups.com > on behalf of Stela Selckiku > > *Sent:* Friday, 13 February 2015 10:43 AM > *To:* loj...@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: [lojban] Does this account for xorlo?=20 > =20 > =20 > > On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 12:46 PM, Joshua Anon > wrote: > > Am I asking the wrong questions? Am I way to concerned about "lo"=20 >> messing me up? >> =20 >> =20 > > Yeah you are, yeah you are. Switching to different articles was a big=20 > deal at the time more because we didn't politically know how to navigate= =20 > changes to the language, rather than something about the change in=20 > particular. That particular change is extremely easy to ignore. Also=20 > there's other changes between the literary dialect you'll find in books a= nd=20 > the way Lojban's spoken on the street that are far more substantial. But = of=20 > course you'll get a lot closer to being able to communicate with Lojbanis= ts=20 > by reading those old texts, as we all learned by reading those same books= =20 > or by hearing echoes of them, and you'll find that we not only riff off= =20 > that style a lot but even make lots of specific reference to those texts. > > mu'omi'e la stela selckiku=20 > > =20 --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. ------=_Part_389_632402354.1424183789110 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Some of important Lojban version are listed in commentarie= s here: http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/lookup.pl?Form=3Dlookup.pl2&Databas= e=3D*&Query=3Djo%27au
They are:

CLL http://www.lojban.org/jbo= ski/,
camxes http://camxes.lojban.org/ ,
zansi gerna http://www.lojba= n.org/tiki/zasni+gerna ,
ilmentufa http://mw.lojban.org/extensions/ilmen= tufa/camxes-exp.html,
fancylojban http://mw.lojban.org/papri/fancylojban= http://mw.lojban.org/papri/ce_ki_tau_jau

there are also La Bangu ht= tp://mw.lojban.org/papri/La_Bangu
and IRC Lojban, which is a vernacular = style of Lojban as spoken (mainly) on #lojban

As far as I know, ther= e are no Lojban Version Tree yet.

M.



=D0=BF=D0=BE=D0= =BD=D0=B5=D0=B4=D0=B5=D0=BB=D1=8C=D0=BD=D0=B8=D0=BA, 16 =D1=84=D0=B5=D0=B2= =D1=80=D0=B0=D0=BB=D1=8F 2015 =D0=B3., 16:41:27 UTC+3 =D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=BB=D1= =8C=D0=B7=D0=BE=D0=B2=D0=B0=D1=82=D0=B5=D0=BB=D1=8C Timothy Lawrence =D0=BD= =D0=B0=D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=81=D0=B0=D0=BB:

Is there a page with a history of Lojban "versions"?


I've found this page but I was hoping for a summary just about the diffe= rent official versions released: http://mw.lojban.org/= index.php?title=3DLojban_timeline


For example, the C++ programming language has had updated standards= (known as C++11, C++14, et cetera). On the website, there seem to be (ofte= n implicit) references to older versions of Lojban: do these have names?


Timothy E. Diamond Lawrence
Programmer and Web Designer
 
From: loj...@googlegroups.com <loj...@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Stela = Selckiku <selc...@= gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, 13 February 2015 10:43 AM
To: loj...@go= oglegroups.com
Subject: Re: [lojban] Does this account for xorlo?
 


On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 12:46 PM, Joshua Anon <jt...@mail.com> wrote:

Am I asking the wrong questions? Am I way to concerned abo= ut "lo" messing me up?



Yeah you are, yeah you are. Switching to different articles was a big = deal at the time more because we didn't politically know how to navigate ch= anges to the language, rather than something about the change in particular= . That particular change is extremely easy to ignore. Also there's other changes between the literary dialect yo= u'll find in books and the way Lojban's spoken on the street that are far m= ore substantial. But of course you'll get a lot closer to being able to com= municate with Lojbanists by reading those old texts, as we all learned by reading those same books or by heari= ng echoes of them, and you'll find that we not only riff off that style a l= ot but even make lots of specific reference to those texts.

mu'omi'e la stela selckiku

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