Received: from mail-ie0-f185.google.com ([209.85.223.185]:39616) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1YOlpM-00058g-P6 for lojban-beginners-archive@lojban.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2015 03:33:07 -0800 Received: by iecrp18 with SMTP id rp18sf1815619iec.6 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 2015 03:32:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :content-type:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe; bh=vSWTlHDAibm2QROYa0jQyCEowHAgKzRYK5wIpXTjbCc=; b=jsK5Yl9uZ1VorgEOEc0dXkiN/aqwW7pbINKoFQVv+MC5j0KWFG+YzBQF16P6jd8P1v V61yeRNRAaqAwYFD77+uUXpu4reaesSU4i5i8xBRVix7/rL9veST5V+Q9iog6izNQ5ij p/TYXZbHXCwiOghfE/qfSc4qlLUhNTR9SSH7lGYt+bJIGXv3mG9dS3I/x1qBhBC8IxqO oLVRlQNkACUHtYTOGpTpKcWfH8C+UP2fruXzx7XdD+CTuImfuBch5TCvPO12uMzZlAwT DdyegIhW4VseazRtYWKiZjp8Mx/3HgtBKnJfCBJJaq2xwMxxYlxd1u3hTY9qQZiHQADU VPiA== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :content-type:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe; bh=vSWTlHDAibm2QROYa0jQyCEowHAgKzRYK5wIpXTjbCc=; b=CcCso7i0dw7lD5rCvkwpDIK/TRD9LYeeJB28L4c/9lWnNZ37bo2A+iKWobZRHJB7zX TNfZqXtQFK+DiQd4gvdZqkJu+JyPhkTstJFR2DJ2EjovZvdLgUeIvfLUDWhw8mlgo3GY vgQrpfDnZ9y4NbVY4lVyhm5B7ePAxzbZr3/EU+kM6QQfQXYKw0lbdQkvqtjqdwHAlx9s GgBKiqjnawlqmnRCovxfvac1ztQiWZxSrbxd7gz0HHmkbRcucEEyHlz80SA7DmWdcWCX 58Qo3Gx5jU7kMf6U5a99/paaomyCeVDsgzJPoQoG+aRjy9jWNqDldb/MCPY/P/rJzU06 PVTQ== X-Received: by 10.140.31.52 with SMTP id e49mr176828qge.37.1424431974778; Fri, 20 Feb 2015 03:32:54 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.140.92.227 with SMTP id b90ls1136592qge.49.gmail; Fri, 20 Feb 2015 03:32:54 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.140.30.118 with SMTP id c109mr174501qgc.15.1424431974287; Fri, 20 Feb 2015 03:32:54 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 03:32:53 -0800 (PST) From: Erik Natanael Gustafsson To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <095fb3fa-b04b-4ea2-b170-e8b261eeca7b@googlegroups.com> <6bdd8c4e-4d47-485f-8eba-92c42d94e3ed@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] A few sentences MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_227_1964995104.1424431973929" X-Original-Sender: eriknatanaelgustafsson@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_bar: - ------=_Part_227_1964995104.1424431973929 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_228_1669189362.1424431973929" ------=_Part_228_1669189362.1424431973929 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > >> I am a bit confused by how the position of the ca'o changes its scope and >> effect. Does ".i la .erik. pu farlu ri'a lo bolci be lo rokci vau ca lo nu >> ra ca'o klama" mean that only the going is continuous? >> > > It means that Eric falls at a time when the going is going on (i.e. afer > it started and before it is finished). "ca'o" indicates that the event is > in the midst of happening (already started and not yet finished), not so > much that it is continuous. > > >> Also, is the use of vau correct and necessary here? >> > > No, "vau" terminates the bridi, so you can't add a new term "ca lo nu ra > ca'o klama" after it. > OK. So either .i la .erik. pu farlu ri'a lo bolci be lo rokci ca lo nu ra ca'o klama or .i la .erik. pu farlu ri'a lo bolci be lo rokci .i ca bo ra ca'o klama ? ki'e mu'o -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. ------=_Part_228_1669189362.1424431973929 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

 
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I am a bit confused by how the position of the ca'o change= s its scope and effect. Does ".i la .erik. pu farlu ri'a lo bolci be lo rok= ci vau ca lo nu ra ca'o klama" mean that only the going is continuous?

It means that Eric falls at a time when t= he going is going on (i.e. afer it started and before it is finished). &nbs= p;"ca'o" indicates that the event is in the midst of happening (already sta= rted and not yet finished), not so much that it is continuous.
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Also, is the use of vau correct= and necessary here?

No, "vau" te= rminates the bridi, so you can't add a new term "ca lo nu ra ca'o klama" af= ter it.
OK. = So either
.i la .erik. pu farlu ri'a lo bolci be lo rokci ca lo nu ra ca= 'o klama
or
.i la .erik. pu farlu ri'a lo bolci be lo rokci .i ca bo = ra ca'o klama
?

ki'e mu'o

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