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[2607:f8b0:400d:c01::22b]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y1si1762468qcq.1.2015.04.04.07.46.16 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 04 Apr 2015 07:46:16 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of blindbravado@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400d:c01::22b as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:400d:c01::22b; Received: by mail-qc0-x22b.google.com with SMTP id f4so92589862qcr.0 for ; Sat, 04 Apr 2015 07:46:16 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.140.85.137 with SMTP id n9mr7780220qgd.40.1428158776578; Sat, 04 Apr 2015 07:46:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.80.231 with HTTP; Sat, 4 Apr 2015 07:46:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <6090dd51-ff30-4204-b791-54e109e3989b@googlegroups.com> References: <6090dd51-ff30-4204-b791-54e109e3989b@googlegroups.com> Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2015 10:46:16 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] A few more sentences From: Ian Johnson To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c128948f95510512e720fa X-Original-Sender: blindbravado@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of blindbravado@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400d:c01::22b as permitted sender) smtp.mail=blindbravado@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_bar: - --001a11c128948f95510512e720fa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable #1: tirna would be fine, but this is OK. #2: Good. #3: As with several of these you could really use the actual simxu structure, for instance {.i .au mi'o simxu lo ka [ce'u ce'u] ctuca}. #4: Similar to 3, {.i mi'o kakne lo ka [ce'u] simxu lo ka [ce'u ce'u] xamgu= } #5: Seems OK, the original line isn't very clear of course. #6: That is not what smuni3 is about: smuni3 is about who decides what the smuni1 of a certain smuni2 is. Here you want {jimpe} or similar. #7: That's OK but it's clunky. I don't see why not to just write, say, {.i na mutce frica fa mi do} or similar. #8: It depends a little bit on in what respect you are sharing it. One way would be {.i mi'o kakne lo ka [ce'u] dunli lo ka [ma kau] zdani [ce'u]}, which means "We can reside in the same home." #9: I think this is hard, but I don't think you've really achieved it. I'm not sure I can help with it. mi'e la latro'a mu'o On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 5:25 AM, Erik Natanael Gustafsson < eriknatanaelgustafsson@gmail.com> wrote: > coi ro do > > I am working on a piece for flute quartet and I'm using a few Lojban > phrases. The following are a few that I'm thinking about using and I woul= d > be most grateful if you would like to correct them and propose better > translations. > > Listen to us! > .i ko zgatirna mi > > See us! > .i ko viska mi > > Let us share our knowledge. > .i .au mi'o simxu dunda lo selju'o pe mi'o > > We could mutually benefit one another (hard to translate from Swedish "Vi > kan ha mycket gl=C3=A4dje av varandra") > .i .au mi'o ba simxu rinka lo so'i xamgu > > Collaboration. > .i mi'o kansi'u > > Let us understand eachother. > .i .e'o .au mi'o simxu tersmu > > We are not so different, you and me. > .i na'e frica fa do fe mi > > We can share this place. > .i .au lonu mi'o xabju lo mintu stuzi cu cumki > > This place where you are you, I am I and we are we. > .i le stuzi bu'u ku noi do backi do zi'e noi mi backi mi zi'e mi'o backi > mi'o > > di'ai mu'o > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. 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#1: tirna would be fine, but this= is OK.

#2: Good.

#3: As with several of these yo= u could really use the actual simxu structure, for instance {.i .au mi'= o simxu lo ka [ce'u ce'u] ctuca}.

#4: Similar to 3, {.= i mi'o kakne lo ka [ce'u] simxu lo ka [ce'u ce'u] xamgu}
#5: Seems OK, the original line isn't very clear of course.<= br>
#6: That is not what smuni3 is about: smuni3 is about who= decides what the smuni1 of a certain smuni2 is. Here you want {jimpe} or s= imilar.

#7: That's OK but it's clunky. I don'= t see why not to just write, say, {.i na mutce frica fa mi do} or similar.<= br>
#8: It depends a little bit on in what respect you are sh= aring it. One way would be {.i mi'o kakne lo ka [ce'u] dunli lo ka = [ma kau] zdani [ce'u]}, which means "We can reside in the same hom= e."

#9: I think this is hard, but I don't think = you've really achieved it. I'm not sure I can help with it.

=
mi'e la latro'a mu'o

On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 5:25 AM, E= rik Natanael Gustafsson <eriknatanaelgustafsson@gmail.com> wrote:
coi ro do

I am workin= g on a piece for flute quartet and I'm using a few Lojban phrases. The = following are a few that I'm thinking about using and I would be most g= rateful if you would like to correct them and propose better translations.<= br>
Listen to us!
.i ko zgatirna mi

See us!
.i ko viska mi

Let us share our knowledge.
.i .au mi'o simxu dunda lo selju'o pe mi'o=

<= /div>
We could mutually benefit one another (ha= rd to translate from Swedish "Vi kan ha mycket gl=C3=A4dje av varandra= ")
.= i .au mi'o ba simxu rinka lo so'i xamgu

Collaboration.
.i mi'o kansi'u
<= /div>

Let us understand eachother.
.i .e'o .au mi'o simx= u tersmu

=
We are not so different, yo= u and me.
.i na'e frica fa do fe mi

We can share this place.
.i .au lonu mi'o xabju lo mintu stuzi cu = cumki

= This place where you are you, = I am I and we are we.
.i le stuzi=C2=A0bu'u ku noi do backi do zi'e noi mi b= acki mi zi'e mi'o backi mi'o

di'ai mu'o

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