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[212.227.15.18]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o3si283054wib.2.2015.04.04.08.18.11 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 04 Apr 2015 08:18:11 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of seladwa@gmx.de designates 212.227.15.18 as permitted sender) client-ip=212.227.15.18; Received: from [192.168.2.118] ([93.220.92.231]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx003) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MLfLH-1YfFBI0UhX-000tbd for ; Sat, 04 Apr 2015 17:18:11 +0200 Message-ID: <552000B5.3040208@gmx.de> Date: Sat, 04 Apr 2015 17:18:13 +0200 From: selpa'i User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] A few more sentences References: <6090dd51-ff30-4204-b791-54e109e3989b@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <6090dd51-ff30-4204-b791-54e109e3989b@googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:o5J3sf3yKKC0g+xdjZN8cwiMIRmeuj2xmIfR58ofJUCw1GZXgRH HjSrdyIvMM7MxfbX4ZWNdNvbahFT4WTkeQMBhJE+nlYJgtvJ0M+VYNEM3k9SWT0jnpFlCHr wmyhj8KObsrMPRJZYGQyWyaRxjhbHamIPl9SZvj/BjN9uPHTpwWiEmHQh6fLWl1SGjDkvT0 rnPFU2ih4w+oioRJPM7Ew== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; X-Original-Sender: seladwa@gmx.de X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of seladwa@gmx.de designates 212.227.15.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=seladwa@gmx.de Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.6 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.6 X-Spam_score_int: -15 X-Spam_bar: - la'o me. Erik Natanael Gustafsson .me cusku di'e > coi ro do coi > I am working on a piece for flute quartet and I'm using a few Lojban > phrases. The following are a few that I'm thinking about using and I > would be most grateful if you would like to correct them and propose > better translations. As latro'a has already pointed out most things that might need tweaking,=20 I'm just going to add my personal attempt at your sentences below. > Listen to us! ko tinju'i [tu'a] mi'a ({mi} instead of {mi'a} works only if the line is said by e.g. a choir=20 (which might be the case, of course)) > See us! ko viska mi'a > Let us share our knowledge. .e'e mi'o simxu lo ka [ce'u] jungau [ce'u] fi lo se djuno be lo nei (having to use {nei} is very ugly to me... there are ways to avoid it,=20 but they involve more advanced "tricks". It would be better to make a=20 new brivla for this purpose.) > We could mutually benefit one another (hard to translate from Swedish > "Vi kan ha mycket gl=C3=A4dje av varandra") mi'o ka'e simxu lo ka mutce xamgu/pluka/glekygau > Collaboration. .i da'i [gun]kansi'u > Let us understand eachother. .e'e mi'o simxu lo ka jimpe [tu'a ce'u] > We are not so different, you and me. so'u da te frica do mi or: .i na ku so'i da te frica do mi or: .i na fricysi'u so'i da fa do jo'u mi > We can share this place. tu'a lo vi stuzi ka'e kampu mi'o > This place where you are you, I am I and we are we. The ugly literal version: .i go'i fa lo vi stuzi noi bu'u ke'a do ckaji lo se ckaji be do zi'e noi=20 bu'u ke'a mi ckaji lo se ckaji be mi zi'e noi bu'u ke'a mi'o ckaji lo se=20 ckaji be mi'o (it strongly depends on what "are" means in this context) A possible alternative: .i go'i fa lo vi stuzi noi bu'u ke'a zifre lo ka ckaji ma kau kei fa mi=20 .e do .e mi'o Btw, what does {backi} mean? mi'e la selpa'i mu'o --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.