Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2015 14:22:46 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] A few more sentences
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On Sunday, April 5, 2015 at 2:25:28 PM UTC+2, selpa'i wrote:
>
>
> > The last sentence is obviously the hardest one, because it is so vague 
> > and metaphorical. But I think what I mean is that each subject can be 
> > completely themselves at this place, that no aspect of them needs to 
> > change. I had a little trouble with selpa'i's second version of this 
> > (what selbri does the "fa"s refer to and how does the indirect question 
> > work?), but I think maybe it is getting at this? 
> > ".i go'i fa lo vi stuzi noi bu'u ke'a zifre lo ka ckaji ma kau kei fa mi 
> > .e do .e mi'o" 
>
> It could be translated back into English as: 
>
> "this place, where me, you and we are free to have whatever properties 
> that we do" 
>
> The first {fa} is {go'i}'s x1, which is the previous sentence's x1.
>
 
I really like that way of expressing it! So the second fa replaces the ke'a 
in the noi?
Why should I reference the previous sentence and replace its x1? Is it just 
a poetical way of phrasing? Does the phrase work without it (".i lo vi 
stuzi noi bu'u ke'a zifre lo ka ckaji ma kau kei fa mi .e do .e mi'o")?

 
> The second {fa} points to {zifre}. 
>
> mi'e la selpa'i mu'o 
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><br>On Sunday, April 5, 2015 at 2:25:28 PM UTC+2, selp=
a'i wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left:=
 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;"><br>&gt; The last se=
ntence is obviously the hardest one, because it is so vague
<br>&gt; and metaphorical. But I think what I mean is that each subject can=
 be
<br>&gt; completely themselves at this place, that no aspect of them needs =
to
<br>&gt; change. I had a little trouble with selpa'i's second version of th=
is
<br>&gt; (what selbri does the "fa"s refer to and how does the indirect que=
stion
<br>&gt; work?), but I think maybe it is getting at this?
<br>&gt; ".i go'i fa lo vi stuzi noi bu'u ke'a zifre lo ka ckaji ma kau kei=
 fa mi
<br>&gt; .e do .e mi'o"
<br>
<br>It could be translated back into English as:
<br>
<br>"this place, where me, you and we are free to have whatever properties=
=20
<br>that we do"
<br>
<br>The first {fa} is {go'i}'s x1, which is the previous sentence's x1.<br>=
</blockquote><div>&nbsp;<br>I really like that way of expressing it! So the=
 second fa replaces the ke'a in the noi?<br></div><div>Why should I referen=
ce the previous sentence and replace its x1? Is it just a poetical way of p=
hrasing? Does the phrase work without it (".i lo vi stuzi noi bu'u ke'a zif=
re lo ka ckaji ma kau kei fa mi
.e do .e mi'o")?<br><br>
</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8=
ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;">
<br>The second {fa} points to {zifre}.
<br>
<br>mi'e la selpa'i mu'o
<br></blockquote></div>

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