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[69.168.97.48]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g4si509532igc.3.2015.04.19.13.38.07 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 19 Apr 2015 13:38:07 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: none (google.com: phma@bezitopo.org does not designate permitted sender hosts) client-ip=69.168.97.48; X-Authed-Username: cGhtYUBodWdoZXMubmV0 X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=Tsff2lnh c=1 sm=0 tr=0 a=8WxDmEN+yG9ijBF2nxzWZQ==:117 a=8WxDmEN+yG9ijBF2nxzWZQ==:17 a=K-v-2zaBAAAA:8 a=zx0GPhIIxR8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=JNFw9bs7AAAA:8 a=e9J7MTPGsLIA:10 a=dL78viwgXMn70ckW44QA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Received-SPF: neutral (smtp02.hughes.cmh.synacor.com: 45.37.90.97 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of bezitopo.org) Received: from [45.37.90.97] ([45.37.90.97:37994] helo=bezitopo.org) by smtp.hughes.net (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.49 r(42060/42061)) with ESMTPSA (cipher=AES256-SHA) id F1/2B-05740-F2214355; Sun, 19 Apr 2015 16:38:07 -0400 Received: from caracal.localnet (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bezitopo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 433E7471D for ; Sun, 19 Apr 2015 16:38:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] What actually are the rules of word formation? Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2015 16:38:02 -0400 Message-ID: <2181850.dfjG9pztna@caracal> User-Agent: KMail/4.13.3 (Linux/3.13.0-48-generic; KDE/4.13.3; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Original-Sender: phma@bezitopo.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=none (google.com: phma@bezitopo.org does not designate permitted sender hosts) smtp.mail=phma@bezitopo.org Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - On Sunday, April 19, 2015 07:18:06 TR NS wrote: > When I first learned about loglan/lojban I thought all words were of the > form `CVCCV` or `CCVCV`, and compound words (lujvo) were always > `(CVC|CCV)...CV`. I knew names had more flexibility. Later I learned that > borrowed words did too. Even later I learned that compound words too had > more flexible rules, e.g. hypen letters. And finally in the end, starring > me in the face, it dawned on me that even simple words like `brivla` did > not fit the original formations. > > After reading a fair bit, I find myself more confused than ever. Are there > any single set of definitive rules defining what and what isn't a legal > lojban word? I started learning Lojban after the rafsi reallocation. Any lujvo that was valid when I started is still valid, including "brivla". The changes (there was one a few months ago, stating that a syllable cannot contain CGV, where C is a consonant, G is a glide, and V is a vowel) affect only fu'ivla. Pierre -- sei do'anai mi'a djuno puze'e noroi nalselganse srera -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. 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