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[2a00:1450:400c:c00::235]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p9si154589wiz.3.2015.04.21.10.23.47 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 21 Apr 2015 10:23:47 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of robert.s.slaughter@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c00::235 as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c00::235; Received: by mail-wg0-x235.google.com with SMTP id o17so221031656wgs.1 for ; Tue, 21 Apr 2015 10:23:47 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.59.46 with SMTP id w14mr43677454wjq.106.1429637027401; Tue, 21 Apr 2015 10:23:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.32.72 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Apr 2015 10:23:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <109eeada-cbc3-4928-9038-e62657c8d28f@googlegroups.com> References: <109eeada-cbc3-4928-9038-e62657c8d28f@googlegroups.com> Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2015 13:23:47 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Question about learning grammar From: Robert Slaughter To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7ba976c82d3dca05143f4f9a X-Original-Sender: robert.s.slaughter@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of robert.s.slaughter@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c00::235 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=robert.s.slaughter@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_bar: - --047d7ba976c82d3dca05143f4f9a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 The Level 0 book, which has parts a bit dated, is a traditional textbook mode resource. Including a good walk-through of the grammar basics. http://www.*lojban*.org/publications/*level0*/*lojbanLevel0*.pdf http://www.lojban.org/static/publications/level0.html Then there is the CLL (Complete Lojban language) 0.99: http://www.lojban.org/static/publications/reference_grammar.html It's has both errat from when published, as well as recent changes not reflected within. On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 9:18 PM, James Woodburn wrote: > First, I am just learning (second week), and while I believe I am believe > that I have a good handle on things so far, I believe that I would do > better with some examples to work through. > > I have worked through the first 10 wave lessons, and have been going > through the Wave lessons on Memrise. Which while helpful for learning the > "vocabulary", it isn't doing a lot for me as far as learning the grammar. > The Wave lessons had an Exercise in the first or second lesson, but that > has been it. > > I have also worked through some of the Crash Course by la gleki (thank you > for the work). The crash course has a number of "task" to complete, but > that is only for Lesson 1. > > Are there any additional resources that I can tap into that I haven't seen > yet? I know that there are some texts available that I can work through as > well, but am not sure what a good introductory text might be (kind of a > "Dick and Jane" book might be nice.) > > Finally, I would like to ask about my name. My actual name isn't very > original or unique. However, I played Everquest for a number of years had > a Dwarven Cleric that I named Hobbletoe Clubfoot, and that I use for most > of my on-line activities. So, I was thinking that my lojban name could be, > la .'abltos. Would that be correct for Hobbletoe? > > Thank you. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Bob Slaughter http://www.facebook.com/robert.s.slaughter "The price good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." -- Plato "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." -- Edmund Burke "The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing." -- Albert Einstein -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. 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The Level 0 book, which has parts a bit dated, is a tradit= ional textbook mode resource. Including a good walk-through of the grammar = basics.


Then there is the CLL (Complete Lojban language) 0.9= 9:

It's has both erra= t from when published, as well as recent=C2=A0changes=C2=A0not reflected wi= thin.

On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 9:18 PM, James Woodburn <hobbletoe= @gmail.com> wrote:
First, I am just learning (second week), and while I believe I am = believe that I have a good handle on things so far, I believe that I would = do better with some examples to work through.

I have wor= ked through the first 10 wave lessons, and have been going through the Wave= lessons on Memrise.=C2=A0 Which while helpful for learning the "vocab= ulary", it isn't doing a lot for me as far as learning the grammar= .=C2=A0 The Wave lessons had an Exercise in the first or second lesson, but= that has been it.

I have also worked through some= of the Crash Course by la gleki (thank you for the work).=C2=A0 The crash = course has a number of "task" to complete, but that is only for L= esson 1.

Are there any additional resources that I= can tap into that I haven't seen yet?=C2=A0 I know that there are some= texts available that I can work through as well, but am not sure what a go= od introductory text might be (kind of a "Dick and Jane" book mig= ht be nice.)

Finally, I would like to ask about my= name.=C2=A0 My actual name isn't very original or unique.=C2=A0 Howeve= r, I played Everquest for a number of years had a Dwarven Cleric that I nam= ed Hobbletoe Clubfoot, and that I use for most of my on-line activities.=C2= =A0 So, I was thinking that my lojban name could be, la .'abltos.=C2=A0= Would that be correct for Hobbletoe?

Thank you.

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