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[2a00:1450:400c:c05::22e]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id eg1si274219wic.1.2015.04.22.02.00.58 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 22 Apr 2015 02:00:58 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of wow.jvs@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::22e as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c05::22e; Received: by mail-wi0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id mx19so81495023wic.1 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 02:00:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.194.79.226 with SMTP id m2mr48395007wjx.60.1429693258399; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 02:00:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.30.130.79] ([77.73.245.178]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id gi17sm6359085wjc.8.2015.04.22.02.00.57 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 22 Apr 2015 02:00:57 -0700 (PDT) From: mezohe Message-ID: <55376348.1060609@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2015 11:00:56 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] What actually are the rules of word formation? References: <55340DC0.7000106@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <55340DC0.7000106@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Original-Sender: wow.jvs@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of wow.jvs@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::22e as permitted sender) smtp.mail=wow.jvs@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.4 X-Spam_score_int: -23 X-Spam_bar: -- Another bug. Following these rules to the letter, words like=20 {gastro}/{neslau}/{ladzanja} would be split as=20 {ga,stro}/{ne,slau}/{la,dzan,ja} and classed as zihevla, not lujvo,=20 which in turn makes {cazgastro} and so on tosmabru. It seems like the=20 easiest fix is to say that rafsi are syllable-shaped strings, not=20 necessarily syllables. de'i li 2015-04-19 ti'u li 22:19 la mezohe di'e cusku: > When segmenting text into syllables, when a consonant could possibly > either start a syllable or end one, it's always taken to start one. In > other words, onsets are greedy, codas are lazy. [...] > > A final rafsi is: > > - a zihevla: > - a vowel syllable > - followed by any number of vowel, h-, or consonantal syllables > - followed by a vowel- or h-syllable with no final consonant > - is not a gismu or sequence of more than one rafsi > - e.g. cpi,k=C3=B9,ku =C3=A0l,ga f=C3=AC,pr,koi gl=C3=A0u,ka spr= =C3=A0,'e [...] > - or a short final rafsi: > - a CVV or CCV vowel syllable, e.g. xau, cpa > - or a CV vowel syllable followed by a 'V h-syllable, > e.g. f=C3=A0'i > > An initial rafsi is any one of these: [...] > - a short y-less rafsi, unless the following rafsi is a zihevla rafsi: > - a vowel syllable of the form CVV, CVVr, CVC, or CCV > - or a CV syllable followed by a 'V or 'Vr syllable > e.g. gau gaur gas jbu li,'a li,'ar --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. 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