Received: from mail-pa0-f55.google.com ([209.85.220.55]:33807) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1Z7Knn-0002cV-Qj for lojban-beginners-archive@lojban.org; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 02:47:51 -0700 Received: by pablj1 with SMTP id lj1sf922858pab.1 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 02:47:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=date:from:to:message-id:subject:mime-version:content-type :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe; bh=FcPN+kTwa7xQRTMdcMq974RpGrftp7koY72sXdy1u1s=; b=nP0SDvTxIlUqmalGbAjmXXrfpZoLx78SnM0wOVLu+WkZibiWIXU+1saeQZOFa6r4eJ wBDxcGV5cwho9AINzA+7+Vp7ZoyCljKiqypPVcTHfuqFHQzOijBwCU+LJ5uyblgyYlJ1 FumecRYIko3G7LnXQA0YKvLhWJP0rQZsfTGhKBRrT1U/duVXNU0CA3QSHcGAJ/Dul/dO mRR2+s1NOrboZv1q9iYk86FMkBRTx1kJ6JZodP6tMez5sQUGHEIrV4Waay9xdNWaKAKK wX0BZt0GDGcsBWQ0CCUutkiV+Pgixhos3en0F89lbwJ0EbjAtbKWDFyTT+1vxSr6s8dE /NFg== X-Received: by 10.140.39.165 with SMTP id v34mr490948qgv.25.1435052849929; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 02:47:29 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.140.42.138 with SMTP id c10ls75300qga.17.gmail; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 02:47:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.140.231.2 with SMTP id b2mr8937955qhc.5.1435052849557; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 02:47:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.65.195 with SMTP id z3msigs; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 21:44:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.182.91.114 with SMTP id cd18mr248802obb.25.1435034661836; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 21:44:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 21:44:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Christa Hansberry To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Message-Id: Subject: [lojban-beginners] "Notebook" (NOT "selbeiskami"!) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_1373_143012409.1435034661688" X-Original-Sender: chransberry@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.4 X-Spam_score_int: -13 X-Spam_bar: - ------=_Part_1373_143012409.1435034661688 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1374_575357070.1435034661688" ------=_Part_1374_575357070.1435034661688 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I'm currently working through *Lojban for Beginners* and writing the vocab lists and my answers to the exercises in a spiral notebook. I want to label it "Christa's Lojban Notebook", or something along those lines, in Lojban. But when I look up "notebook" with my Lojban dictionary app, all it gives me is "selbeiskami"; I'm guessing that's short for "se bevri skami" which is NOT what I'm after. So, I figured I'd try to figure it out myself, since apparently the authors of Lojban dictionaries are such tech-heads that they've forgotten what a notebook is when it's not a portable computer. But now I'm stuck - Is a notebook a writing-surface type-of book (thus "terci'acku"), or a things-written type-of book (thus "selci'acku")?? Originally, I wrote the former; it is a book that is a writing surface. But then I thought about the word "selpeicku", which L4B gives as the work for "manifesto" - and that is a book that expresses thoughts; one can't think a book! So now a notebook being a things-written type-of book, since it contains things-written, makes sense too. Though I'm still personally leaning toward the first one... So, in summary, is there a commonly used Lojban word for a notebook (a book for notes, not a se bevri type-of skami)? Thank you! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. ------=_Part_1374_575357070.1435034661688 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'm currently working through Lojban for Beginners = and writing the vocab lists and my answers to the exercises in a spiral not= ebook.  I want to label it "Christa's Lojban Notebook", or something a= long those lines, in Lojban. But when I look up "notebook" with my Lojban d= ictionary app, all it gives me is "selbeiskami"; I'm guessing that's short = for "se bevri skami" which is NOT what I'm after. So, I figured I'd try to = figure it out myself, since apparently the authors of Lojban dictionaries a= re such tech-heads that they've forgotten what a notebook is when it's not = a portable computer.

But now I'm stuck - Is a notebook a writing-sur= face type-of book (thus "terci'acku"), or a things-written type-of book (th= us "selci'acku")?? Originally, I wrote the former; it is a book that is a w= riting surface. But then I thought about the word "selpeicku", which L4B gi= ves as the work for "manifesto" - and that is a book that expresses thought= s; one can't think a book! So now a notebook being a things-written type-of= book, since it contains things-written, makes sense too. Though I'm still = personally leaning toward the first one...

So, in summary, is there = a commonly used Lojban word for a notebook (a book for notes, not a se bevr= i type-of skami)?

Thank you!

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