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spf=pass (google.com: domain of timothy.lawrence@connect.qut.edu.au designates 157.56.111.76 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=timothy.lawrence@connect.qut.edu.au Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - --_000_BL2PR01MB370F7AB5D32337315F5EE1AEB960BL2PR01MB370prodex_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 From: Gleki Arxokuna , Friday, 3 July 2015 5:51 PM 2015-07-03 5:50 GMT+03:00 Timothy Lawrence >: > From: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com > on behalf of Pierre Abbat > > > Sent: Thursday, 2 July 2015 11:40 PM > > On Thursday, July 02, 2015 12:19:33 Timothy Lawrence wrote: > > > > Is this valid: "coi .i do sanji mo"? > Yes, but is "you are a conscious what?" what you mean? I was trying to ask "what do you perceive/discern?" do ganse ma or "what are you conscious/aware of?" do sanji ma "ma" of course. Thanks :) Yes I think I meant sanji for this case, as jbovlaste says the "awareness implies some amount of mental processing above and beyond mere sensory detection, and may also be applied to mental relationships that are not detected by the senses" -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --_000_BL2PR01MB370F7AB5D32337315F5EE1AEB960BL2PR01MB370prodex_ Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

From: Gleki Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com>, Friday, 3 J= uly 2015 5:51 PM
 
2015-07-03 5:50 GMT+03:00 Timothy Lawrence <timothy.lawrence@connect.qut.edu= .au>:
> = ;From: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com <lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com= > on behalf of Pierre Abbat > <phma@bezitopo.org>
> = ;Sent: Thursday, 2 July 2015 11:40 PM
> > On Thursday, July 02, 2015 12:19:33 Timothy Lawrence wrote:<= br> > >
> > Is this valid: "coi .i do sanji= mo"?
> Yes, but is "you are a conscious what?" what you mean?<= /span>

I was trying to ask "what do you perceive/discern?"

do ganse ma
 
or "what are you conscious/aware of?"

do sanji ma

"ma" of course. Thanks :)

Yes I think I meant sanji for this case, as jbovlaste says the "awaren= ess implies some amount of mental processing above and beyond mere sensory = detection, and may also be applied to mental relationships that are not det= ected by the senses"



















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