Received: from mail-ob0-f191.google.com ([209.85.214.191]:33311) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1ZElDp-0001m1-JC for lojban-beginners-archive@lojban.org; Mon, 13 Jul 2015 14:25:27 -0700 Received: by obbdh8 with SMTP id dh8sf11492178obb.0 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2015 14:25:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :content-type:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-spam-checked-in-group:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=s9R4BkakalsvVA9N+BlwSJCvybRYZbAAUKsLACHIRpQ=; b=x9JarjiH95OnQsTfQWiPCWiXGxa4txpVoj4tb3Rze4LQXTEI4fMUA3TejVgBhEA32F phIQh5XrSXv2lok4vLaDrKcaKf342d6G7ZY/RalgNsz0o3aiDvgyaeaL4lkKhAEaw1bt JYvwIf92Iugxl/xWxmr5nvZqnQ1Y5pH1qTFWK5y096pqMAfmTgAcuEr6sFWpZmIzoE2H zLXPwU0HyiNNEyzSgNT1sDV470w+2Zvt1FPktoGtMbD32adPvXxkXHCOboQnU7NuYvjD xd+89PwZan0uOjCH6CytXKlIqQZXjtmdcXxKhrNKsPxlSaDuntBmK8tWEBwEdWSDKKk9 i2Vw== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :content-type:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-spam-checked-in-group:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=s9R4BkakalsvVA9N+BlwSJCvybRYZbAAUKsLACHIRpQ=; b=vV9XfzNkbjv0rXNWuI5MafLDb0InJL444ScE5qMFxxGjmrdvX4yGrw2cb4XLiQTNTV 6iUAOBomsequCmpxsXasL5P2li1nzkQORPSZIFAW4KiYjlkcP3/TaETj3YyTRw3Q1O/c 6wmxY2DIr9Y4TirfkBv97rvHyH7u5HpUjwnOZXc9MM36DfAz0KRVLmVsa0x91xLi7U4e qVucln99KxYN9PIMFxX2ol5VmsxYXkkiOgDbZG9QBqQ1WF/SWbDxE9B2YoXcVaRZRp+Y XON7bQ/kQtVKtVnGLuvfPCm6U7drKCGZPUFIkix6Ueq8CxuMMHL87mD7RtN+m3awklcJ lv5g== X-Received: by 10.140.48.11 with SMTP id n11mr491202qga.35.1436822703702; Mon, 13 Jul 2015 14:25:03 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.140.94.199 with SMTP id g65ls2484263qge.9.gmail; Mon, 13 Jul 2015 14:25:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.140.97.55 with SMTP id l52mr410808qge.36.1436822702201; Mon, 13 Jul 2015 14:25:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2015 14:25:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Erik Natanael Gustafsson To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Message-Id: <05fb51b3-df94-4983-983c-dacd4c3a6e4d@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: References: <0e6ef83b-e998-42a2-8e36-2a7dd87348b5@googlegroups.com> Subject: =?UTF-8?B?UmU6IFtsb2piYW4tYmVnaW5uZXJzXSBEaWZmZXJlbmVzIGJldHdlZW4g4oCca2HigJ0gYQ==?= =?UTF-8?B?bmQg4oCcbnXigJ0=?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_1828_1637334280.1436822701640" X-Original-Sender: eriknatanaelgustafsson@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -3.1 (---) X-Spam_score: -3.1 X-Spam_score_int: -30 X-Spam_bar: --- ------=_Part_1828_1637334280.1436822701640 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1829_1035133559.1436822701640" ------=_Part_1829_1035133559.1436822701640 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I have myself a few difficulties understanding abstractions on a deeper level so I will ask some follow up questions: Is ka used generally and nu for specific events? Can I rephrase the translations like this: 1. {mi gleki lo ka tavla do} = I get glad when talking to you (regardless of whether I am doing it right now). 2. {mi gleki lo nu tavla do} = I am glad because of this single event of talking to you. or am I way off? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. ------=_Part_1829_1035133559.1436822701640 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have myself a few difficulties understanding abstraction= s on a deeper level so I will ask some follow up questions:

Is ka us= ed generally and nu for specific events? Can I rephrase the translations li= ke this:

1. {mi gleki lo ka tavla do} =3D I get glad= when talking to you (regardless of whether I am doing it right now).
2. {mi gleki lo nu tavla do} =3D I am glad because of this single = event of talking to you.

or am I way off?

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