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la'o me. Mustafa =C4=B0pekbayrak .me cusku di'e
> Hi friends. I am new in lojban.
> I wonder how to say "to make something better" in lojban. Can anybody
> tell me?

There are at least six ways to say this, of which gleki only showed two:

   (1) mi gasnu lo nu X zenba lo ka xamgu
       "I bring about that X increases in goodness."

   (2) mi gasnu lo nu X xagze'a
       "I bring about that X improves."

   (3) mi xagzengau X
       "I improve X."

   (4) gau mi X xagze'a
       "Brought about by me, X improves."

   (5) mi jai gau xagze'a fai X
       "I am the cause of improvement of X."

   (6) mi jai gau zenba fai X lo ka xamgu
       "I am the cause of increase of X in goodness."

They all mean the same, and only differ in structure. It is a matter of=20
personal preference, but (1-6) are all correct.

mi'e la selpa'i mu'o

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